[Nfb-krafters-korner] Sandra asking multiple questions.

Sun May 8 23:18:21 UTC 2016

I just purchased a copy of that book in braille. The book is about $28.95, and shipping came out to be about $12. Altogether, it was around 42 or $43. I'm not sure if the shipping charge is different based on location though. I live in Southern California.

> On May 8, 2016, at 3:47 PM, ncbootman--- via Nfb-krafters-korner <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> There is a charge for the book as well.
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Joyce Kane via Nfb-krafters-korner
> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 5:22 PM
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> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Sandra asking multiple questions.
> 
> Perkins School in Mass has a book that they have done and is available in
> both Braille and print.  They, I am sure will send it out.  I don't know how
> much the shipping would be, but the name of the book is:
> Drawing With a Perkins Brailler
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Sandra Gayer via Nfb-krafters-korner
> Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 3:11 PM
> To: Ramona Walhof <walhoframona at gmail.com>
> Cc: Sandra Gayer <sandragayer7 at gmail.com>; List for blind crafters and
> artists <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Sandra asking multiple questions.
> 
> Hello  Ramona,
> Thank you. Where can I get these books from? I live in the UK. I think the
> simpler the drawings are, the clearer they are to everyone, sighted or not.
> I did a birthday cake drawing as instructed by the Hadley seminar and my Mum
> thought it was a building. When I told her what it really was,: "oh right.
> Now that you say that... Oh yes I see it now." Whereas the simpler drawings
> like capital print letters and the smily face were quite obvious.
> 
> I don't know how complicated a flower would be. I really like dolphins and
> angels as well; I collect them as ornaments. Drawing them would be the next
> fun step.
> 
> Very best wishes,
> Sandra.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 5/8/16, Ramona Walhof <walhoframona at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sandra, we are making greeting cards with tactile drawings.  There are
>> a couple of books that show examples.  Some designs are more clear
>> than others.  You can make triangles and circles of certain sizes, but
>> not unlimited choices.  I don't know how deep you want to go, but if
>> you want more details, there are several on this list who can help.
>> Ramona
>> 
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>> Behalf Of Sandra Gayer via Nfb-krafters-korner
>> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 11:00 AM
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>> Cc: Sandra Gayer <sandragayer7 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Sandra asking multiple questions.
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> I was catching up on Hadley past seminars today. (You'll be pleased to
>> know that they plugged KK). I tried a few Braille drawings for the
>> first time and I can't believe I never tried it before! I can't say I
>> enjoyed the process much but I did love feeling the pictures as they
>> began to form. Does anyone else have any experience of Braille
>> drawings? For example, straight lines and slopes are reasonably
>> straight forward but what about triangles, stars and circles?
>> 
>> I came across some comments about arm knitting but when I looked it up
>> on Google, it spoke about projects but didn't explain what it actually
> means.
>> Has anyone tried arm knitting? What is it? Is it possible to use
>> stretchy fabric?
>> 
>> I hope everyone is enjoying the weekend.
>> 
>> Very best wishes,
>> Sandra.
>> 
>> On 5/8/16, linda blasingim via Nfb-krafters-korner
>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> These sound good.  Must look up the recipe.  Probably won't make
>>> them, though
>>> 
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>>> Behalf Of Annette Carr via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 7:48 PM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Cc: Annette Carr
>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Pickles - WAS: Measuring Hot Candle
>>> Wax
>>> 
>>> I have never made homemade pickles despite how much I love pickles.
>>> At work everyone has been going crazy over Kool-Aid Pickles.  I have
>>> not tried to make them yet.  It appears that they are very easy to
>>> make based on the various recipes out on the web.
>>> 
>>> Annette
>>> 
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>>> Behalf Of Nella Foster via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 10:38 PM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Cc: Nella Foster
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] MeasuringHotCandle Waxand Other
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is such a good point.  I've made candles before, but most likely
>>> won't do it again.  I enjoy making my own soap and think I get a
>>> better quality than any I can buy.  I'm having fun trying the
>>> knitting looms and will probably try the cro hooking.  There are so
>>> many things to learn and try there's no way I can do it all, but I
>>> want to be able to make informed decisions and get good information when
> needed.
>>> 
>>> If people have a desire to learn something then they should do the
>>> research and give it a try.  You can never know until you do it.
>>> 
>>> I want to make pickles some day. Lol
>>> 
>>> Nella
>>> 
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>>> Behalf Of linda blasingim via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 7:46 PM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Cc: linda blasingim
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] MeasuringHotCandle Waxand Other
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>> 
>>> Greg, at my age, I like taking short cuts.  If younger folks want to
>>> make candles, I think they should learn all they can.  Hey, I am for
>>> giving everything a try!  I made pickles years ago; now, I think
>>> commercial pickles are wonderful.  We should learn something new each
>>> day.  If we learn the basic construction of a craft and never make
>>> it, it is okay; we have learned something.  Like Courtney, I love the
>>> candle warmers for their fraquence choices, as well as, the cost.  I
>>> have even mixed the fraquences, which is fun.  If someone wants to
>>> make candles, I encourage him or her to make them.
>>> Folks, try what you are interested in.  You don't know what you can
>>> achieve until  you try it.  Do not be discouraged.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> Behalf Of ncbootman--- via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 2:51 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Cc: ncbootman at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] MeasuringHotCandle Waxand Other
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>> 
>>> That is exactly where I'm at too. I'm with Linda B. Way to much work
>>> and expense in candlemaking for me. But, I'm really glad I now have
>>> some idea of how and the knowledge that I believe and even know I
>>> could do it safely. I love that machine Linda B described! One
>>> function this group can be is to be like the library. They have books
>>> on all sorts of topics. Most I'll never actually do. But, I can learn
>>> how it's done and so on. I don't want to rebuild an engine to speed
>>> up my white cane. But, I could learn how if I wanted to and could
>>> even tell somebody else at least generally how.
>>> 
>>> Greg
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Henry Osborne via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 2:18 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Cc: Henry Osborne
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner]MeasuringHotCandle Waxand Other
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>> 
>>> Hi Greg;
>>> Very, very well said. I whole heartily agree with all of your points.
>>> I do believe that the other person that recently spoke of how to make
>>> candles has many many years of both knowledge and experience in this
>>> field of crafting.
>>> I want to say to this person to not be discouraged in the craft of
>>> candel making because of the negative remarks of others.
>>> Joyce, I want to join Greg in thanking you for your mini lesson on
>>> how to make candels. I may never attempt this craft, but, at least I
>>> know the process of how to do it.
>>> Henry
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ncbootman--- via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:20 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Cc: ncbootman at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] MeasuringHotCandle Waxand Other
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>> 
>>> So, did you need to ask all of those questions? Do you think you
>>> could do the class? Did you ask for an opportunity to speak with the
>>> instructor yourself and sell him/her on the idea that you could
>>> benefit at least to some degree? And, if all else failed, did you
>>> contact the store manager or A.C. Moore corporate to state your case?
>>> Nobody has shown why you can't take this class. Therefore, you are
>>> being excluded due to lack of understanding and information. Notice I
>>> am saying state your case. So many blind people might try to force
>>> the issue. But, what you need is information first. That little old
>>> lady they hired off the street doesn't understand how a blind person
>>> can do anything most likely. We're so remarkable you know. We can
>>> talk and walk and chew gum lol. Also, could you call the store and
>>> get general information about this class? Talk to the manager about
>>> reasonable accommodation. Maybe you can bring someone with you to
>>> assist at no additional fee to get them seeing that you are competent and
> capable.
>>> 
>>> Terry K, It is true that information is shared here. But, there is
>>> always someone trying to shut down any conversation. Wait till we
>>> teach a
>> class.
>>> Don't talk about that on list till we can teach a class and hope you
>>> can attend. Don't talk about that because you could get burned. Don't
>>> share patterns or instructions so we can teach a class. And, many
>>> times, a person does not need to sit through a class to do a project
>>> where they need only have the pattern because they already know the
>>> technique. That class time could better be used teaching new people
>>> basic technique. Also, by forcing classes, it is simply to hard to
>>> get a date and the procedure is not teacher friendly. I have told
>>> Joyce why I will not teach classes months out. When I taught my two
>>> beading classes, we were being told we desperately need classes for
>>> March. I agreed to teach. I finally said give me two dates because
>>> everything I asked for was taken. Now, we want teachers for June, July
> and August.
>>> I can't plan to be available for certain that far out. So, I'll never
>>> be teaching another class here. So, as a group, you just elected to
>>> give up any knowledge that I have. So be it. We need to just relax
>>> and share or we need to stop saying help each other and learn from
>>> each other and call ourselves a blind crafting school and just have
> classes.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Terry Knox via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 12:52 PM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Cc: Terry Knox
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Measuring HotCandle Waxand Other
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>> 
>>> Hey Greg,
>>> Need your input on this one. Went to AC Moore the other day and was
>>> real interested in taking one of their classes. Started asking all
>>> kinds of questions and they told me Take the class, to make it short.
>>> Then when they realized I was blind told me they did not think I
>>> would be able to do the class. They discouraged me from taking the
>>> class and wanted to check with the teacher. They would not answer my
>>> questions and I guess they would have taken my $25 for the class I could
> not do.
>>> We certainly get a lot more on this list then most places.
>>> Terry K
>>> 
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>>> Behalf Of ncbootman--- via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 12:02 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Cc: ncbootman at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Measuring Hot Candle Waxand Other
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>> 
>>> We are all adults. We have to make decisions about what is safe for
>>> ourselves based on our abilities and limitations. Some people I know
>>> shouldn't be turned lose with a plastic canvas needle. They might
>>> poke their eyes out. Then they could join this group I guess. Are we
>>> here to share knowledge and help people learn or are we here to tell
>>> people wait till we think you can handle the knowledge? Joyce, thank
>>> you for sharing since I did learn and my goodness. My hot water is
>>> hotter than the wax. So, I don't think I'd get cooked lol.
>>> 
>>> Greg
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Terry Knox via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 11:18 AM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Cc: Terry Knox
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Measuring Hot Candle Waxand Other
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>> 
>>> Joyce,
>>> Too much info...Are you teaching a class on line? This was a lot of
>>> answers here, all of this has it all swimming in my head and I am a
>>> seasoned crafter. Candle making is a craft that as you know can be
>>> most dangerous with Hot wax and really studied for a sighted person
>>> and tricky for a vision impaired person. You really know how to do
>>> this well I would caution advice given to anyone on hot wax crafting
>>> without hands on class or emails one on one.
>>> Just my non important opinion.
>>> Terry K
>>> 
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>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Joyce Kane via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 10:17 PM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Measuring Hot Candle Wax and Other
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>> 
>>> I used double boilers or a double boiler system like an inch or 2 of
>>> water in a saucepan with the pouring pot placed in the center.  I did
>>> not use anything under the pouring pot.
>>> 
>>> I used a wooden spoon to keep stering  the wax.  I bought the one
>>> poor wax by the case or when starting out 11 pound slabs.  I cut it
>>> with a butter knife and weighed it according to the size of the jar
>>> or container I was going to poor it in.  I had gotten a talking food
>>> scale and would measure in grams.  I paid over $100 for the talking
>>> scale.  If you want to know the name of the brand of scale send me a
>>> note off list with your other questions.
>>> 
>>> I preferred purchasing the wax in cases of 55 pounds.  You got 5 - 11
>>> pound slabs.
>>> 
>>> I used cotter pins that were 4 or 5 inches long to hold the wix in
>>> place at the top of the jars.  I used the wix with the metal disk on
>>> the bottom and would put some wax on it and put it into the jar and
>>> push it down.  You could feel it with your fingers if it was centered
>>> at the bottom.  My husband would put the wix in the cotter pin and
>>> use masking tape to secure the cotter pins to the top of the jar.  If
>>> you don't secure the wix in place with the cotter pin which will hold
>>> it up straight the wix could shift and not be in the center.
>>> 
>>> I would have to do some looking to find where I got the long cotter
>>> pins -that was a trick I learned from a candlemaker in PA that told
>>> me a lot of info and I first got the 11 pound slabs of wax from her.
>>> 
>>> The one pour wax is soft and more like butter.  It melts at around
>>> 120
>>> -
>>> 130
>>> degrees.  I use to pour in the afternoon and leave them sit until
>>> before I went to bed or the next morning.  It will harden from the
>>> outside of the jar to the center wick area.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Joyce
>>> Too many questions.  This will keep you thinking for now.
>>> 
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>>> Behalf Of Sirena Carroll via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 8:03 PM
>>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Sirena Carroll <sirenacarroll86 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Measuring Hot Candle Wax and Other
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>> 
>>> Dear Crafters,
>>> 
>>> Looks like I may be venturing into candlemaking a bit sooner than
>>> planned due to an oppertunity that's popped up over here, but I had a
>>> few questions for blind candlemakers first.
>>> 
>>> I wanted to know how you candlemakers measure your hot wax when
>>> pouring it into a container or a mold if making wax tarts, bars or
>>> cubes. I've read on Lonestar that you shouldn't fill the container up
>>> past the widest part of the jar, but how do you tell where that is
>>> for yourselves? Do you just use smaller jars and liquid level indicaters?
>>> Could an LLI even take that kind of heat? I like larger jar candles
>>> myself, and would not wish to be limited to a certain size due to this.
>>> 
>>> Another question. When wicking your containers. To ensure centering,
>>> do any of you use wick-centering tools? If so, which would you
>>> recommend and do you find they work for you? Also, do you use wick
>>> stickers, glue dots, or another method of making certain the wick
>>> adheres to the bottom of the container?
>>> 
>>> When it comes to cutting one pour wax, if that is what you use, what
>>> tools do you use to do it? Or do you just get wax pellets, shavings
>>> or however else they're sold?
>>> 
>>> What is a wick bar? I think I get the idea, but physically, what does
>>> it look like and what is it for? You have the wick centering tool, if
>>> you use it, and then a wick bar which instructions say to affix as
>>> one of the final steps. It comes off, of course, but what is it actually
> for?
>>> 
>>> Same with wick tabs. What are they used for?
>>> 
>>> I can google all of this as well. I just figured I'd ask here.
>>> 
>>> Oh, one more question. Do you use double boilers or a double boiler
>>> system like an inch of water in a saucepan with the pouring pot
>>> placed in the center, elevated upon a metal trivet or an inexpensive
>>> metal cookie
>> cutter?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all your help!
>>> 
>>> Rena
>>> 
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