[Nfb-krafters-korner] Sandra asking multiple questions.

jill rossiter jillbilly4 at comcast.net
Sun May 8 23:45:46 UTC 2016


I bought it last year and the price was the same mailed to Alabama.
Jill

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I just purchased a copy of that book in braille. The book is about $28.95,
and shipping came out to be about $12. Altogether, it was around 42 or $43.
I'm not sure if the shipping charge is different based on location though. I
live in Southern California.

> On May 8, 2016, at 3:47 PM, ncbootman--- via Nfb-krafters-korner
<nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> There is a charge for the book as well.
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Joyce Kane via Nfb-krafters-korner
> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 5:22 PM
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> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Sandra asking multiple questions.
> 
> Perkins School in Mass has a book that they have done and is available 
> in both Braille and print.  They, I am sure will send it out.  I don't 
> know how much the shipping would be, but the name of the book is:
> Drawing With a Perkins Brailler
> 
> Joyce
> 
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> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sandra 
> Gayer via Nfb-krafters-korner
> Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 3:11 PM
> To: Ramona Walhof <walhoframona at gmail.com>
> Cc: Sandra Gayer <sandragayer7 at gmail.com>; List for blind crafters and 
> artists <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Sandra asking multiple questions.
> 
> Hello  Ramona,
> Thank you. Where can I get these books from? I live in the UK. I think 
> the simpler the drawings are, the clearer they are to everyone, sighted or
not.
> I did a birthday cake drawing as instructed by the Hadley seminar and 
> my Mum thought it was a building. When I told her what it really was,: "oh
right.
> Now that you say that... Oh yes I see it now." Whereas the simpler 
> drawings like capital print letters and the smily face were quite obvious.
> 
> I don't know how complicated a flower would be. I really like dolphins 
> and angels as well; I collect them as ornaments. Drawing them would be 
> the next fun step.
> 
> Very best wishes,
> Sandra.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 5/8/16, Ramona Walhof <walhoframona at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sandra, we are making greeting cards with tactile drawings.  There 
>> are a couple of books that show examples.  Some designs are more 
>> clear than others.  You can make triangles and circles of certain 
>> sizes, but not unlimited choices.  I don't know how deep you want to 
>> go, but if you want more details, there are several on this list who can
help.
>> Ramona
>> 
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>> Behalf Of Sandra Gayer via Nfb-krafters-korner
>> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 11:00 AM
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>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Sandra Gayer <sandragayer7 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Sandra asking multiple questions.
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> I was catching up on Hadley past seminars today. (You'll be pleased 
>> to know that they plugged KK). I tried a few Braille drawings for the 
>> first time and I can't believe I never tried it before! I can't say I 
>> enjoyed the process much but I did love feeling the pictures as they 
>> began to form. Does anyone else have any experience of Braille 
>> drawings? For example, straight lines and slopes are reasonably 
>> straight forward but what about triangles, stars and circles?
>> 
>> I came across some comments about arm knitting but when I looked it 
>> up on Google, it spoke about projects but didn't explain what it 
>> actually
> means.
>> Has anyone tried arm knitting? What is it? Is it possible to use 
>> stretchy fabric?
>> 
>> I hope everyone is enjoying the weekend.
>> 
>> Very best wishes,
>> Sandra.
>> 
>> On 5/8/16, linda blasingim via Nfb-krafters-korner 
>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> These sound good.  Must look up the recipe.  Probably won't make 
>>> them, though
>>> 
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>>> Behalf Of Annette Carr via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 7:48 PM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Cc: Annette Carr
>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Pickles - WAS: Measuring Hot Candle 
>>> Wax
>>> 
>>> I have never made homemade pickles despite how much I love pickles.
>>> At work everyone has been going crazy over Kool-Aid Pickles.  I have 
>>> not tried to make them yet.  It appears that they are very easy to 
>>> make based on the various recipes out on the web.
>>> 
>>> Annette
>>> 
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>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Nella Foster via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 10:38 PM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Cc: Nella Foster
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] MeasuringHotCandle Waxand Other 
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is such a good point.  I've made candles before, but most 
>>> likely won't do it again.  I enjoy making my own soap and think I 
>>> get a better quality than any I can buy.  I'm having fun trying the 
>>> knitting looms and will probably try the cro hooking.  There are so 
>>> many things to learn and try there's no way I can do it all, but I 
>>> want to be able to make informed decisions and get good information 
>>> when
> needed.
>>> 
>>> If people have a desire to learn something then they should do the 
>>> research and give it a try.  You can never know until you do it.
>>> 
>>> I want to make pickles some day. Lol
>>> 
>>> Nella
>>> 
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>>> Behalf Of linda blasingim via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 7:46 PM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Cc: linda blasingim
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] MeasuringHotCandle Waxand Other 
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>> 
>>> Greg, at my age, I like taking short cuts.  If younger folks want to 
>>> make candles, I think they should learn all they can.  Hey, I am for 
>>> giving everything a try!  I made pickles years ago; now, I think 
>>> commercial pickles are wonderful.  We should learn something new 
>>> each day.  If we learn the basic construction of a craft and never 
>>> make it, it is okay; we have learned something.  Like Courtney, I 
>>> love the candle warmers for their fraquence choices, as well as, the 
>>> cost.  I have even mixed the fraquences, which is fun.  If someone 
>>> wants to make candles, I encourage him or her to make them.
>>> Folks, try what you are interested in.  You don't know what you can 
>>> achieve until  you try it.  Do not be discouraged.
>>> 
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>>> Behalf Of ncbootman--- via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 2:51 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Cc: ncbootman at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] MeasuringHotCandle Waxand Other 
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>> 
>>> That is exactly where I'm at too. I'm with Linda B. Way to much work 
>>> and expense in candlemaking for me. But, I'm really glad I now have 
>>> some idea of how and the knowledge that I believe and even know I 
>>> could do it safely. I love that machine Linda B described! One 
>>> function this group can be is to be like the library. They have 
>>> books on all sorts of topics. Most I'll never actually do. But, I 
>>> can learn how it's done and so on. I don't want to rebuild an engine 
>>> to speed up my white cane. But, I could learn how if I wanted to and 
>>> could even tell somebody else at least generally how.
>>> 
>>> Greg
>>> 
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>>> From: Henry Osborne via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 2:18 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Cc: Henry Osborne
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner]MeasuringHotCandle Waxand Other 
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>> 
>>> Hi Greg;
>>> Very, very well said. I whole heartily agree with all of your points.
>>> I do believe that the other person that recently spoke of how to 
>>> make candles has many many years of both knowledge and experience in 
>>> this field of crafting.
>>> I want to say to this person to not be discouraged in the craft of 
>>> candel making because of the negative remarks of others.
>>> Joyce, I want to join Greg in thanking you for your mini lesson on 
>>> how to make candels. I may never attempt this craft, but, at least I 
>>> know the process of how to do it.
>>> Henry
>>> 
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>>> From: ncbootman--- via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:20 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Cc: ncbootman at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] MeasuringHotCandle Waxand Other 
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>> 
>>> So, did you need to ask all of those questions? Do you think you 
>>> could do the class? Did you ask for an opportunity to speak with the 
>>> instructor yourself and sell him/her on the idea that you could 
>>> benefit at least to some degree? And, if all else failed, did you 
>>> contact the store manager or A.C. Moore corporate to state your case?
>>> Nobody has shown why you can't take this class. Therefore, you are 
>>> being excluded due to lack of understanding and information. Notice 
>>> I am saying state your case. So many blind people might try to force 
>>> the issue. But, what you need is information first. That little old 
>>> lady they hired off the street doesn't understand how a blind person 
>>> can do anything most likely. We're so remarkable you know. We can 
>>> talk and walk and chew gum lol. Also, could you call the store and 
>>> get general information about this class? Talk to the manager about 
>>> reasonable accommodation. Maybe you can bring someone with you to 
>>> assist at no additional fee to get them seeing that you are 
>>> competent and
> capable.
>>> 
>>> Terry K, It is true that information is shared here. But, there is 
>>> always someone trying to shut down any conversation. Wait till we 
>>> teach a
>> class.
>>> Don't talk about that on list till we can teach a class and hope you 
>>> can attend. Don't talk about that because you could get burned. 
>>> Don't share patterns or instructions so we can teach a class. And, 
>>> many times, a person does not need to sit through a class to do a 
>>> project where they need only have the pattern because they already 
>>> know the technique. That class time could better be used teaching 
>>> new people basic technique. Also, by forcing classes, it is simply 
>>> to hard to get a date and the procedure is not teacher friendly. I 
>>> have told Joyce why I will not teach classes months out. When I 
>>> taught my two beading classes, we were being told we desperately 
>>> need classes for March. I agreed to teach. I finally said give me 
>>> two dates because everything I asked for was taken. Now, we want 
>>> teachers for June, July
> and August.
>>> I can't plan to be available for certain that far out. So, I'll 
>>> never be teaching another class here. So, as a group, you just 
>>> elected to give up any knowledge that I have. So be it. We need to 
>>> just relax and share or we need to stop saying help each other and 
>>> learn from each other and call ourselves a blind crafting school and 
>>> just have
> classes.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Terry Knox via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 12:52 PM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Cc: Terry Knox
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Measuring HotCandle Waxand Other 
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>> 
>>> Hey Greg,
>>> Need your input on this one. Went to AC Moore the other day and was 
>>> real interested in taking one of their classes. Started asking all 
>>> kinds of questions and they told me Take the class, to make it short.
>>> Then when they realized I was blind told me they did not think I 
>>> would be able to do the class. They discouraged me from taking the 
>>> class and wanted to check with the teacher. They would not answer my 
>>> questions and I guess they would have taken my $25 for the class I 
>>> could
> not do.
>>> We certainly get a lot more on this list then most places.
>>> Terry K
>>> 
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>>> Behalf Of ncbootman--- via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 12:02 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Cc: ncbootman at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Measuring Hot Candle Waxand Other 
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>> 
>>> We are all adults. We have to make decisions about what is safe for 
>>> ourselves based on our abilities and limitations. Some people I know 
>>> shouldn't be turned lose with a plastic canvas needle. They might 
>>> poke their eyes out. Then they could join this group I guess. Are we 
>>> here to share knowledge and help people learn or are we here to tell 
>>> people wait till we think you can handle the knowledge? Joyce, thank 
>>> you for sharing since I did learn and my goodness. My hot water is 
>>> hotter than the wax. So, I don't think I'd get cooked lol.
>>> 
>>> Greg
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Terry Knox via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 11:18 AM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Cc: Terry Knox
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Measuring Hot Candle Waxand Other 
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>> 
>>> Joyce,
>>> Too much info...Are you teaching a class on line? This was a lot of 
>>> answers here, all of this has it all swimming in my head and I am a 
>>> seasoned crafter. Candle making is a craft that as you know can be 
>>> most dangerous with Hot wax and really studied for a sighted person 
>>> and tricky for a vision impaired person. You really know how to do 
>>> this well I would caution advice given to anyone on hot wax crafting 
>>> without hands on class or emails one on one.
>>> Just my non important opinion.
>>> Terry K
>>> 
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>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Joyce Kane via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 10:17 PM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Measuring Hot Candle Wax and 
>>> Other Candlemaking Questions
>>> 
>>> I used double boilers or a double boiler system like an inch or 2 of 
>>> water in a saucepan with the pouring pot placed in the center.  I 
>>> did not use anything under the pouring pot.
>>> 
>>> I used a wooden spoon to keep stering  the wax.  I bought the one 
>>> poor wax by the case or when starting out 11 pound slabs.  I cut it 
>>> with a butter knife and weighed it according to the size of the jar 
>>> or container I was going to poor it in.  I had gotten a talking food 
>>> scale and would measure in grams.  I paid over $100 for the talking 
>>> scale.  If you want to know the name of the brand of scale send me a 
>>> note off list with your other questions.
>>> 
>>> I preferred purchasing the wax in cases of 55 pounds.  You got 5 - 
>>> 11 pound slabs.
>>> 
>>> I used cotter pins that were 4 or 5 inches long to hold the wix in 
>>> place at the top of the jars.  I used the wix with the metal disk on 
>>> the bottom and would put some wax on it and put it into the jar and 
>>> push it down.  You could feel it with your fingers if it was 
>>> centered at the bottom.  My husband would put the wix in the cotter 
>>> pin and use masking tape to secure the cotter pins to the top of the 
>>> jar.  If you don't secure the wix in place with the cotter pin which 
>>> will hold it up straight the wix could shift and not be in the center.
>>> 
>>> I would have to do some looking to find where I got the long cotter 
>>> pins -that was a trick I learned from a candlemaker in PA that told 
>>> me a lot of info and I first got the 11 pound slabs of wax from her.
>>> 
>>> The one pour wax is soft and more like butter.  It melts at around
>>> 120
>>> -
>>> 130
>>> degrees.  I use to pour in the afternoon and leave them sit until 
>>> before I went to bed or the next morning.  It will harden from the 
>>> outside of the jar to the center wick area.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Joyce
>>> Too many questions.  This will keep you thinking for now.
>>> 
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>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Sirena Carroll via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 8:03 PM
>>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Sirena Carroll <sirenacarroll86 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Measuring Hot Candle Wax and Other 
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>> 
>>> Dear Crafters,
>>> 
>>> Looks like I may be venturing into candlemaking a bit sooner than 
>>> planned due to an oppertunity that's popped up over here, but I had 
>>> a few questions for blind candlemakers first.
>>> 
>>> I wanted to know how you candlemakers measure your hot wax when 
>>> pouring it into a container or a mold if making wax tarts, bars or 
>>> cubes. I've read on Lonestar that you shouldn't fill the container 
>>> up past the widest part of the jar, but how do you tell where that 
>>> is for yourselves? Do you just use smaller jars and liquid level
indicaters?
>>> Could an LLI even take that kind of heat? I like larger jar candles 
>>> myself, and would not wish to be limited to a certain size due to this.
>>> 
>>> Another question. When wicking your containers. To ensure centering, 
>>> do any of you use wick-centering tools? If so, which would you 
>>> recommend and do you find they work for you? Also, do you use wick 
>>> stickers, glue dots, or another method of making certain the wick 
>>> adheres to the bottom of the container?
>>> 
>>> When it comes to cutting one pour wax, if that is what you use, what 
>>> tools do you use to do it? Or do you just get wax pellets, shavings 
>>> or however else they're sold?
>>> 
>>> What is a wick bar? I think I get the idea, but physically, what 
>>> does it look like and what is it for? You have the wick centering 
>>> tool, if you use it, and then a wick bar which instructions say to 
>>> affix as one of the final steps. It comes off, of course, but what 
>>> is it actually
> for?
>>> 
>>> Same with wick tabs. What are they used for?
>>> 
>>> I can google all of this as well. I just figured I'd ask here.
>>> 
>>> Oh, one more question. Do you use double boilers or a double boiler 
>>> system like an inch of water in a saucepan with the pouring pot 
>>> placed in the center, elevated upon a metal trivet or an inexpensive 
>>> metal cookie
>> cutter?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all your help!
>>> 
>>> Rena
>>> 
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