[Nfb-krafters-korner] Sandra asking multiple questions.
Annely Rose
annely53r at yahoo.com
Mon May 9 17:52:41 UTC 2016
Hi,
I have a document in PDF titled So What About Drawing by Marie Porter that was in a resource list for a Hadley course. It has the steps for different drawings in braille. I can send it to anyone who is interested. It has a couple of shamrocks, truck, sailboat, and others. Just send me an email from you directly to my email and I'll send it to you. My email is annely53r at yahoo.com.
Annely
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On Sun, 5/8/16, jill rossiter via Nfb-krafters-korner <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Sandra asking multiple questions.
To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "jill rossiter" <jillbilly4 at comcast.net>
Date: Sunday, May 8, 2016, 7:45 PM
I bought it last year and the price
was the same mailed to Alabama.
Jill
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I just purchased a copy of that book in braille. The book is
about $28.95,
and shipping came out to be about $12. Altogether, it was
around 42 or $43.
I'm not sure if the shipping charge is different based on
location though. I
live in Southern California.
> On May 8, 2016, at 3:47 PM, ncbootman--- via
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>
> There is a charge for the book as well.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Joyce Kane via
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> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Sandra asking
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>
> Perkins School in Mass has a book that they have done
and is available
> in both Braille and print. They, I am sure will
send it out. I don't
> know how much the shipping would be, but the name of
the book is:
> Drawing With a Perkins Brailler
>
> Joyce
>
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On Behalf Of Sandra
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> Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 3:11 PM
> To: Ramona Walhof <walhoframona at gmail.com>
> Cc: Sandra Gayer <sandragayer7 at gmail.com>;
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> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Sandra asking
multiple questions.
>
> Hello Ramona,
> Thank you. Where can I get these books from? I live in
the UK. I think
> the simpler the drawings are, the clearer they are to
everyone, sighted or
not.
> I did a birthday cake drawing as instructed by the
Hadley seminar and
> my Mum thought it was a building. When I told her what
it really was,: "oh
right.
> Now that you say that... Oh yes I see it now." Whereas
the simpler
> drawings like capital print letters and the smily face
were quite obvious.
>
> I don't know how complicated a flower would be. I
really like dolphins
> and angels as well; I collect them as ornaments.
Drawing them would be
> the next fun step.
>
> Very best wishes,
> Sandra.
>
>
>
>> On 5/8/16, Ramona Walhof <walhoframona at gmail.com>
wrote:
>> Sandra, we are making greeting cards with tactile
drawings. There
>> are a couple of books that show examples.
Some designs are more
>> clear than others. You can make triangles and
circles of certain
>> sizes, but not unlimited choices. I don't
know how deep you want to
>> go, but if you want more details, there are several
on this list who can
help.
>> Ramona
>>
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>> Behalf Of Sandra Gayer via Nfb-krafters-korner
>> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 11:00 AM
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>> Cc: Sandra Gayer <sandragayer7 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Sandra asking
multiple questions.
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>> I was catching up on Hadley past seminars today.
(You'll be pleased
>> to know that they plugged KK). I tried a few
Braille drawings for the
>> first time and I can't believe I never tried it
before! I can't say I
>> enjoyed the process much but I did love feeling the
pictures as they
>> began to form. Does anyone else have any experience
of Braille
>> drawings? For example, straight lines and slopes
are reasonably
>> straight forward but what about triangles, stars
and circles?
>>
>> I came across some comments about arm knitting but
when I looked it
>> up on Google, it spoke about projects but didn't
explain what it
>> actually
> means.
>> Has anyone tried arm knitting? What is it? Is it
possible to use
>> stretchy fabric?
>>
>> I hope everyone is enjoying the weekend.
>>
>> Very best wishes,
>> Sandra.
>>
>> On 5/8/16, linda blasingim via Nfb-krafters-korner
>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
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>>> These sound good. Must look up the
recipe. Probably won't make
>>> them, though
>>>
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>>> Behalf Of Annette Carr via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 7:48 PM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Cc: Annette Carr
>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Pickles - WAS:
Measuring Hot Candle
>>> Wax
>>>
>>> I have never made homemade pickles despite how
much I love pickles.
>>> At work everyone has been going crazy over
Kool-Aid Pickles. I have
>>> not tried to make them yet. It appears
that they are very easy to
>>> make based on the various recipes out on the
web.
>>>
>>> Annette
>>>
>>>
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>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Nella Foster via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 10:38 PM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Cc: Nella Foster
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner]
MeasuringHotCandle Waxand Other
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>>
>>>
>>> This is such a good point. I've made
candles before, but most
>>> likely won't do it again. I enjoy making
my own soap and think I
>>> get a better quality than any I can buy.
I'm having fun trying the
>>> knitting looms and will probably try the cro
hooking. There are so
>>> many things to learn and try there's no way I
can do it all, but I
>>> want to be able to make informed decisions and
get good information
>>> when
> needed.
>>>
>>> If people have a desire to learn something then
they should do the
>>> research and give it a try. You can never
know until you do it.
>>>
>>> I want to make pickles some day. Lol
>>>
>>> Nella
>>>
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>>> Behalf Of linda blasingim via
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>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 7:46 PM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Cc: linda blasingim
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner]
MeasuringHotCandle Waxand Other
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>>
>>> Greg, at my age, I like taking short
cuts. If younger folks want to
>>> make candles, I think they should learn all
they can. Hey, I am for
>>> giving everything a try! I made pickles
years ago; now, I think
>>> commercial pickles are wonderful. We
should learn something new
>>> each day. If we learn the basic
construction of a craft and never
>>> make it, it is okay; we have learned
something. Like Courtney, I
>>> love the candle warmers for their fraquence
choices, as well as, the
>>> cost. I have even mixed the fraquences,
which is fun. If someone
>>> wants to make candles, I encourage him or her
to make them.
>>> Folks, try what you are interested in.
You don't know what you can
>>> achieve until you try it. Do not be
discouraged.
>>>
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>>> On
>>> Behalf Of ncbootman--- via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 2:51 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Cc: ncbootman at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner]
MeasuringHotCandle Waxand Other
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>>
>>> That is exactly where I'm at too. I'm with
Linda B. Way to much work
>>> and expense in candlemaking for me. But, I'm
really glad I now have
>>> some idea of how and the knowledge that I
believe and even know I
>>> could do it safely. I love that machine Linda B
described! One
>>> function this group can be is to be like the
library. They have
>>> books on all sorts of topics. Most I'll never
actually do. But, I
>>> can learn how it's done and so on. I don't want
to rebuild an engine
>>> to speed up my white cane. But, I could learn
how if I wanted to and
>>> could even tell somebody else at least
generally how.
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
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>>> From: Henry Osborne via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 2:18 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Cc: Henry Osborne
>>> Subject: Re:
[Nfb-krafters-korner]MeasuringHotCandle Waxand Other
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>>
>>> Hi Greg;
>>> Very, very well said. I whole heartily agree
with all of your points.
>>> I do believe that the other person that
recently spoke of how to
>>> make candles has many many years of both
knowledge and experience in
>>> this field of crafting.
>>> I want to say to this person to not be
discouraged in the craft of
>>> candel making because of the negative remarks
of others.
>>> Joyce, I want to join Greg in thanking you for
your mini lesson on
>>> how to make candels. I may never attempt this
craft, but, at least I
>>> know the process of how to do it.
>>> Henry
>>>
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>>> From: ncbootman--- via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:20 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Cc: ncbootman at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner]
MeasuringHotCandle Waxand Other
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>>
>>> So, did you need to ask all of those questions?
Do you think you
>>> could do the class? Did you ask for an
opportunity to speak with the
>>> instructor yourself and sell him/her on the
idea that you could
>>> benefit at least to some degree? And, if all
else failed, did you
>>> contact the store manager or A.C. Moore
corporate to state your case?
>>> Nobody has shown why you can't take this class.
Therefore, you are
>>> being excluded due to lack of understanding and
information. Notice
>>> I am saying state your case. So many blind
people might try to force
>>> the issue. But, what you need is information
first. That little old
>>> lady they hired off the street doesn't
understand how a blind person
>>> can do anything most likely. We're so
remarkable you know. We can
>>> talk and walk and chew gum lol. Also, could you
call the store and
>>> get general information about this class? Talk
to the manager about
>>> reasonable accommodation. Maybe you can bring
someone with you to
>>> assist at no additional fee to get them seeing
that you are
>>> competent and
> capable.
>>>
>>> Terry K, It is true that information is shared
here. But, there is
>>> always someone trying to shut down any
conversation. Wait till we
>>> teach a
>> class.
>>> Don't talk about that on list till we can teach
a class and hope you
>>> can attend. Don't talk about that because you
could get burned.
>>> Don't share patterns or instructions so we can
teach a class. And,
>>> many times, a person does not need to sit
through a class to do a
>>> project where they need only have the pattern
because they already
>>> know the technique. That class time could
better be used teaching
>>> new people basic technique. Also, by forcing
classes, it is simply
>>> to hard to get a date and the procedure is not
teacher friendly. I
>>> have told Joyce why I will not teach classes
months out. When I
>>> taught my two beading classes, we were being
told we desperately
>>> need classes for March. I agreed to teach. I
finally said give me
>>> two dates because everything I asked for was
taken. Now, we want
>>> teachers for June, July
> and August.
>>> I can't plan to be available for certain that
far out. So, I'll
>>> never be teaching another class here. So, as a
group, you just
>>> elected to give up any knowledge that I have.
So be it. We need to
>>> just relax and share or we need to stop saying
help each other and
>>> learn from each other and call ourselves a
blind crafting school and
>>> just have
> classes.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Terry Knox via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 12:52 PM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Cc: Terry Knox
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Measuring
HotCandle Waxand Other
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>>
>>> Hey Greg,
>>> Need your input on this one. Went to AC Moore
the other day and was
>>> real interested in taking one of their classes.
Started asking all
>>> kinds of questions and they told me Take the
class, to make it short.
>>> Then when they realized I was blind told me
they did not think I
>>> would be able to do the class. They discouraged
me from taking the
>>> class and wanted to check with the teacher.
They would not answer my
>>> questions and I guess they would have taken my
$25 for the class I
>>> could
> not do.
>>> We certainly get a lot more on this list then
most places.
>>> Terry K
>>>
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>>> On
>>> Behalf Of ncbootman--- via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 12:02 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Cc: ncbootman at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Measuring
Hot Candle Waxand Other
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>>
>>> We are all adults. We have to make decisions
about what is safe for
>>> ourselves based on our abilities and
limitations. Some people I know
>>> shouldn't be turned lose with a plastic canvas
needle. They might
>>> poke their eyes out. Then they could join this
group I guess. Are we
>>> here to share knowledge and help people learn
or are we here to tell
>>> people wait till we think you can handle the
knowledge? Joyce, thank
>>> you for sharing since I did learn and my
goodness. My hot water is
>>> hotter than the wax. So, I don't think I'd get
cooked lol.
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Terry Knox via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 11:18 AM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Cc: Terry Knox
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Measuring
Hot Candle Waxand Other
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>>
>>> Joyce,
>>> Too much info...Are you teaching a class on
line? This was a lot of
>>> answers here, all of this has it all swimming
in my head and I am a
>>> seasoned crafter. Candle making is a craft that
as you know can be
>>> most dangerous with Hot wax and really studied
for a sighted person
>>> and tricky for a vision impaired person. You
really know how to do
>>> this well I would caution advice given to
anyone on hot wax crafting
>>> without hands on class or emails one on one.
>>> Just my non important opinion.
>>> Terry K
>>>
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>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Joyce Kane via Nfb-krafters-korner
>>> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 10:17 PM
>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Measuring
Hot Candle Wax and
>>> Other Candlemaking Questions
>>>
>>> I used double boilers or a double boiler system
like an inch or 2 of
>>> water in a saucepan with the pouring pot placed
in the center. I
>>> did not use anything under the pouring pot.
>>>
>>> I used a wooden spoon to keep stering the
wax. I bought the one
>>> poor wax by the case or when starting out 11
pound slabs. I cut it
>>> with a butter knife and weighed it according to
the size of the jar
>>> or container I was going to poor it in. I
had gotten a talking food
>>> scale and would measure in grams. I paid
over $100 for the talking
>>> scale. If you want to know the name of
the brand of scale send me a
>>> note off list with your other questions.
>>>
>>> I preferred purchasing the wax in cases of 55
pounds. You got 5 -
>>> 11 pound slabs.
>>>
>>> I used cotter pins that were 4 or 5 inches long
to hold the wix in
>>> place at the top of the jars. I used the
wix with the metal disk on
>>> the bottom and would put some wax on it and put
it into the jar and
>>> push it down. You could feel it with your
fingers if it was
>>> centered at the bottom. My husband would
put the wix in the cotter
>>> pin and use masking tape to secure the cotter
pins to the top of the
>>> jar. If you don't secure the wix in place
with the cotter pin which
>>> will hold it up straight the wix could shift
and not be in the center.
>>>
>>> I would have to do some looking to find where I
got the long cotter
>>> pins -that was a trick I learned from a
candlemaker in PA that told
>>> me a lot of info and I first got the 11 pound
slabs of wax from her.
>>>
>>> The one pour wax is soft and more like
butter. It melts at around
>>> 120
>>> -
>>> 130
>>> degrees. I use to pour in the afternoon
and leave them sit until
>>> before I went to bed or the next morning.
It will harden from the
>>> outside of the jar to the center wick area.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Joyce
>>> Too many questions. This will keep you
thinking for now.
>>>
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>>> Behalf Of Sirena Carroll via
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>>> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 8:03 PM
>>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Sirena Carroll <sirenacarroll86 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Measuring Hot
Candle Wax and Other
>>> Candlemaking Questions
>>>
>>> Dear Crafters,
>>>
>>> Looks like I may be venturing into candlemaking
a bit sooner than
>>> planned due to an oppertunity that's popped up
over here, but I had
>>> a few questions for blind candlemakers first.
>>>
>>> I wanted to know how you candlemakers measure
your hot wax when
>>> pouring it into a container or a mold if making
wax tarts, bars or
>>> cubes. I've read on Lonestar that you shouldn't
fill the container
>>> up past the widest part of the jar, but how do
you tell where that
>>> is for yourselves? Do you just use smaller jars
and liquid level
indicaters?
>>> Could an LLI even take that kind of heat? I
like larger jar candles
>>> myself, and would not wish to be limited to a
certain size due to this.
>>>
>>> Another question. When wicking your containers.
To ensure centering,
>>> do any of you use wick-centering tools? If so,
which would you
>>> recommend and do you find they work for you?
Also, do you use wick
>>> stickers, glue dots, or another method of
making certain the wick
>>> adheres to the bottom of the container?
>>>
>>> When it comes to cutting one pour wax, if that
is what you use, what
>>> tools do you use to do it? Or do you just get
wax pellets, shavings
>>> or however else they're sold?
>>>
>>> What is a wick bar? I think I get the idea, but
physically, what
>>> does it look like and what is it for? You have
the wick centering
>>> tool, if you use it, and then a wick bar which
instructions say to
>>> affix as one of the final steps. It comes off,
of course, but what
>>> is it actually
> for?
>>>
>>> Same with wick tabs. What are they used for?
>>>
>>> I can google all of this as well. I just
figured I'd ask here.
>>>
>>> Oh, one more question. Do you use double
boilers or a double boiler
>>> system like an inch of water in a saucepan with
the pouring pot
>>> placed in the center, elevated upon a metal
trivet or an inexpensive
>>> metal cookie
>> cutter?
>>>
>>> Thanks for all your help!
>>>
>>> Rena
>>>
>>>
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