[Nfb-seniors] Nfb-seniors Digest, Vol 65, Issue 13
Bernadette Jacobs
bernienfb75 at gmail.com
Wed Nov 26 13:48:13 UTC 2014
Good morning everyone: Bernie here. Today is packing day. Running the third load of laundry. Got an assembly line going from the laundry to the suitcases. Want to get everything packed before the kids get home from school today. They only have half a day.
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> Good morning seniors - so good to hear from you...I just got back from our state affiliate's state convention (I'm in Kansas) - always fun and full of meaningful ideas and inspirations. Our national rep. was James Brown from Tennessee who gave a wonderful and thoughtful banquet speech. He reminded us, at least those of us who have been federationists for many years and presented to the new-bees, the formative path our organization has taken through the leadership of our amazing founding fathers. Jacobus ten Brook, led us through hardships to establish the groundwork for security and equality. , A renounnedpsychologist developed his theory "Maslow's hierarcy of self actualiZation"...a fancy way of saying that before someone can reach their full potential, there must be food, shelter and money for survival...Mr. Brown also delved, very nicely, into how beliefs, and more to the point, misbeliefs and misperceptions continue to block us, the blind, in reaching our full potential and how we might go about changing these falsehoods. Remember, we ourselves can sometimes buy into negative beliefs about ourselves as well as society as a whole...
> I have also been checking out the crafters division and joined last week. I chuckle a bit at myself as I have never thought about doing any arts and crafts until about 2 years ago...now I'm pretty involved in several areas and loving it more than I ever thought possible. Well, this is likely more than you wanted but hope others will continue to share what's going on in their life, good or of concern and a worry , so we can help each other as possible. Dianne
>> On Nov 24, 2014, at 9:20 PM, Eric Welch via Nfb-seniors wrote:
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>> Everything is fine here in Baltimore,Md
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>> Eric L Welch
>> On Nov 23, 2014 8:55 AM, "Lin H. via Nfb-seniors" <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org>
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>>> Hello all! It?s been quiet here! How is everyone? Getting ready
>>> for Thanksgiving? Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving! Sincerely,
>>> Linda
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> From: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
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> Hey Valerie: As for screen readers, I've done JHAWS since 1995. I've
> played around with Window Eyes, but for some reason, can't seem to get
> it very well. Can't stand NVDA. Just because it's free, doesn't mean
> it works for me. I've just never been real crazy about it. Yeah, I
> guess some of us folks don't like change. It's easier to stay with what
> I've had since dirt. Don't do change if I don't have to. I don't
> always upgrade though because they think I should and they want what
> little money I have...
>
>
> As for Thanksgiving, We're going to Bill's Mom and Step-Dad's. Been
> baking like a fiend in between laundry loads. Other than that,
> everyone's just great around here. Getting everything ready to go. In
> case I don't get on again, all you guys have a Blessed Thanksgiving!!!
> Believe it or not, Thanksgiving is actually my favorite holiday. I
> think we should be thankful year-round. I guess that's why I like it.
> Not because of the food. To be perfectly honest, Turkey is too dry for
> me. I simply tolerate it because it's there. I'm a ham lady myself.
> My dad didn't like turkey either. He'd go out and hunt for a deer and
> Mom would cook up some deer meat. Yummmmeeee!!! Nothing like some good
> old sausage!!
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>> Everything is fine here in Baltimore,Md
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>> Eric L Welch
>> On Nov 23, 2014 8:55 AM, "Lin H. via Nfb-seniors" <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org>
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>>> Hello all! It?s been quiet here! How is everyone? Getting ready
>>> for Thanksgiving? Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving! Sincerely,
>>> Linda
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>> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:46:19 +1030
>> From: "Valerie" <rosetta at adam.com.au>
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>> Hello Linda, We don't have Thanksgiving here in Aus, but it is getting busier with Christmas so close. I am hoping it will not be too hot on Christmas day, but if it is, we shall all be outdoors on the back verandah enjoying lunch. I guess most on the list will have a cool Christmas.
>>
>> I am thinking about a new screen reader programme or other possiblitlies, what is everyone using on their computer, I have, at present, zoomtext speech.
>>
>> Cheers to everyone on list.
>> Valerie
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>> Everything is fine here in Baltimore,Md
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>> Eric L Welch
>> On Nov 23, 2014 8:55 AM, "Lin H. via Nfb-seniors" <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org>
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> Bern:
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> Believe me, I understand about managing expenses with a slim wallet. Candor
> impels me, however, to point out that there's a trade-off for not upgrading
> one's screen-reader: even if you don't change, the computer environment
> does, both in terms of software and in terms of the Internet (web content
> and constructs, etc.). Unless you live in a cuccoon, sooner or later you
> will find there are web pages that can't be properly interpreted by your
> browser and your screen-reader because, like Omar Khayam's moving finger,
> the computer environment has moved on. I don't know why this is such a
> difficult concept for many blind folks to grasp: I suppose it's more
> comforting to blame everything on Big Bad Corporations, i.e., screen-reader
> manufacturers.
>
> I'm not saying everyone should upgrade although I make it a practice to do
> so. What I am saying is that, by making the choice to stay static, you are
> limiting your opportunities.
>
> I think it's also fair to say that NVDA works under some circumstances that
> JAWS and WE can't handle and vice versa.
>
> We plan to go over to one of my wife's uncles place for Thanksgiving. It's
> always a potluck and my wife is bringing pies -- she is known for her
> desserts.
>
> Happy Holidays, all.
>
> Mike
>
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> Bernadette Jacobs via Nfb-seniors
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> Subject: Re: [Nfb-seniors] Nfb-seniors Digest, Vol 65, Issue 12
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> Hey Valerie: As for screen readers, I've done JHAWS since 1995. I've played
> around with Window Eyes, but for some reason, can't seem to get it very
> well. Can't stand NVDA. Just because it's free, doesn't mean it works for
> me. I've just never been real crazy about it. Yeah, I guess some of us
> folks don't like change. It's easier to stay with what I've had since dirt.
> Don't do change if I don't have to. I don't always upgrade though because
> they think I should and they want what little money I have...
>
>
> As for Thanksgiving, We're going to Bill's Mom and Step-Dad's. Been baking
> like a fiend in between laundry loads. Other than that, everyone's just
> great around here. Getting everything ready to go. In case I don't get on
> again, all you guys have a Blessed Thanksgiving!!!
> Believe it or not, Thanksgiving is actually my favorite holiday. I think we
> should be thankful year-round. I guess that's why I like it.
> Not because of the food. To be perfectly honest, Turkey is too dry for me.
> I simply tolerate it because it's there. I'm a ham lady myself.
> My dad didn't like turkey either. He'd go out and hunt for a deer and Mom
> would cook up some deer meat. Yummmmeeee!!! Nothing like some good old
> sausage!!
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>> Everything is fine here in Baltimore,Md
>>
>> Eric L Welch
>> On Nov 23, 2014 8:55 AM, "Lin H. via Nfb-seniors"
>> <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
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>>> Hello all! It?s been quiet here! How is everyone? Getting ready
>>> for Thanksgiving? Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving!
> Sincerely,
>>> Linda
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>> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:46:19 +1030
>> From: "Valerie" <rosetta at adam.com.au>
>> To: "'Eric Welch'" <compelw at gmail.com>, "'NFB Senior Division list'"
>> <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-seniors] How is everyone?
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>> Hello Linda, We don't have Thanksgiving here in Aus, but it is getting
> busier with Christmas so close. I am hoping it will not be too hot on
> Christmas day, but if it is, we shall all be outdoors on the back verandah
> enjoying lunch. I guess most on the list will have a cool Christmas.
>>
>> I am thinking about a new screen reader programme or other possiblitlies,
> what is everyone using on their computer, I have, at present, zoomtext
> speech.
>>
>> Cheers to everyone on list.
>> Valerie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Eric Welch via Nfb-seniors
>> Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2014 1:50 PM
>> To: NFB Senior Division list; Lin H.
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-seniors] How is everyone?
>>
>> Everything is fine here in Baltimore,Md
>>
>> Eric L Welch
>> On Nov 23, 2014 8:55 AM, "Lin H. via Nfb-seniors"
>> <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
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>>> Hello all! It?s been quiet here! How is everyone? Getting ready
>>> for Thanksgiving? Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving!
> Sincerely,
>>> Linda
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> From: Dianne Hemphill <diannehemphill at cox.net>
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> ...I now use the "voice over" programs already embedded within the Apple/Mac products. This decision was made a few years ago after using jaws f/windows for nearly 20 years. I well new how to use jafws but also the problems and ongoing expenses. Though Apple products tend to be a bit more expensive initially , it is actually less expensive in the long run. I really contemplated whether I wanted to spend the time, effort and frustration of learning a new system but am glad I did. I'm not particularly techy so learning a new system is not intuitive for me...still learning but have the time since I'm retired. You might want to look into Apple products...one of my younger friends is determined to get me into this decade and says she will help me learn how to use a I - phone...this will be a big jump for me from my comfort zone of using a flip phone. Good luck in deciding what's best for you... I understand how difficult it is to learn some new technology and don't approach it without a lot of pondering knowing what is involved in the changes...I hope each of you have a wonderful Thanksgiving. Dianne
>> On Nov 25, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Mike Freeman via Nfb-seniors wrote:
>>
>> Bern:
>>
>> Believe me, I understand about managing expenses with a slim wallet. Candor
>> impels me, however, to point out that there's a trade-off for not upgrading
>> one's screen-reader: even if you don't change, the computer environment
>> does, both in terms of software and in terms of the Internet (web content
>> and constructs, etc.). Unless you live in a cuccoon, sooner or later you
>> will find there are web pages that can't be properly interpreted by your
>> browser and your screen-reader because, like Omar Khayam's moving finger,
>> the computer environment has moved on. I don't know why this is such a
>> difficult concept for many blind folks to grasp: I suppose it's more
>> comforting to blame everything on Big Bad Corporations, i.e., screen-reader
>> manufacturers.
>>
>> I'm not saying everyone should upgrade although I make it a practice to do
>> so. What I am saying is that, by making the choice to stay static, you are
>> limiting your opportunities.
>>
>> I think it's also fair to say that NVDA works under some circumstances that
>> JAWS and WE can't handle and vice versa.
>>
>> We plan to go over to one of my wife's uncles place for Thanksgiving. It's
>> always a potluck and my wife is bringing pies -- she is known for her
>> desserts.
>>
>> Happy Holidays, all.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfb-seniors [mailto:nfb-seniors-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Bernadette Jacobs via Nfb-seniors
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:35 AM
>> To: nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org; nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-seniors] Nfb-seniors Digest, Vol 65, Issue 12
>>
>> Hey Valerie: As for screen readers, I've done JHAWS since 1995. I've played
>> around with Window Eyes, but for some reason, can't seem to get it very
>> well. Can't stand NVDA. Just because it's free, doesn't mean it works for
>> me. I've just never been real crazy about it. Yeah, I guess some of us
>> folks don't like change. It's easier to stay with what I've had since dirt.
>> Don't do change if I don't have to. I don't always upgrade though because
>> they think I should and they want what little money I have...
>>
>>
>> As for Thanksgiving, We're going to Bill's Mom and Step-Dad's. Been baking
>> like a fiend in between laundry loads. Other than that, everyone's just
>> great around here. Getting everything ready to go. In case I don't get on
>> again, all you guys have a Blessed Thanksgiving!!!
>> Believe it or not, Thanksgiving is actually my favorite holiday. I think we
>> should be thankful year-round. I guess that's why I like it.
>> Not because of the food. To be perfectly honest, Turkey is too dry for me.
>> I simply tolerate it because it's there. I'm a ham lady myself.
>> My dad didn't like turkey either. He'd go out and hunt for a deer and Mom
>> would cook up some deer meat. Yummmmeeee!!! Nothing like some good old
>> sausage!!
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>>> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 22:20:08 -0500
>>> From: Eric Welch <compelw at gmail.com>
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>>> <iwannacu2 at sbcglobal.net>
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>>> Everything is fine here in Baltimore,Md
>>>
>>> Eric L Welch
>>> On Nov 23, 2014 8:55 AM, "Lin H. via Nfb-seniors"
>>> <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all! It?s been quiet here! How is everyone? Getting ready
>>>> for Thanksgiving? Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving!
>> Sincerely,
>>>> Linda
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:46:19 +1030
>>> From: "Valerie" <rosetta at adam.com.au>
>>> To: "'Eric Welch'" <compelw at gmail.com>, "'NFB Senior Division list'"
>>> <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-seniors] How is everyone?
>>> Message-ID: <000001d00866$90724a40$b156dec0$@adam.com.au>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> Hello Linda, We don't have Thanksgiving here in Aus, but it is getting
>> busier with Christmas so close. I am hoping it will not be too hot on
>> Christmas day, but if it is, we shall all be outdoors on the back verandah
>> enjoying lunch. I guess most on the list will have a cool Christmas.
>>>
>>> I am thinking about a new screen reader programme or other possiblitlies,
>> what is everyone using on their computer, I have, at present, zoomtext
>> speech.
>>>
>>> Cheers to everyone on list.
>>> Valerie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Nfb-seniors [mailto:nfb-seniors-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Eric Welch via Nfb-seniors
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2014 1:50 PM
>>> To: NFB Senior Division list; Lin H.
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-seniors] How is everyone?
>>>
>>> Everything is fine here in Baltimore,Md
>>>
>>> Eric L Welch
>>> On Nov 23, 2014 8:55 AM, "Lin H. via Nfb-seniors"
>>> <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all! It?s been quiet here! How is everyone? Getting ready
>>>> for Thanksgiving? Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving!
>> Sincerely,
>>>> Linda
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>>>> a
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 13:36:57 -0600
> From: "Lin H." <iwannacu2 at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Bernadette Jacobs" <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>, "NFB Senior Division
> list" <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-seniors] Nfb-seniors Digest, Vol 65, Issue 12
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> I also use JAWS screen reader, and it works good for me! I wish I could
> learn more with it! My best thing to do with it is emails! LOL!
> Going to my sister's for the Holiday! Sincerely, Linda
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bernadette Jacobs via Nfb-seniors
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 7:34 AM
> To: nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org ; nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-seniors] Nfb-seniors Digest, Vol 65, Issue 12
>
> Hey Valerie: As for screen readers, I've done JHAWS since 1995. I've
> played around with Window Eyes, but for some reason, can't seem to get
> it very well. Can't stand NVDA. Just because it's free, doesn't mean
> it works for me. I've just never been real crazy about it. Yeah, I
> guess some of us folks don't like change. It's easier to stay with what
> I've had since dirt. Don't do change if I don't have to. I don't
> always upgrade though because they think I should and they want what
> little money I have...
>
>
> As for Thanksgiving, We're going to Bill's Mom and Step-Dad's. Been
> baking like a fiend in between laundry loads. Other than that,
> everyone's just great around here. Getting everything ready to go. In
> case I don't get on again, all you guys have a Blessed Thanksgiving!!!
> Believe it or not, Thanksgiving is actually my favorite holiday. I
> think we should be thankful year-round. I guess that's why I like it.
> Not because of the food. To be perfectly honest, Turkey is too dry for
> me. I simply tolerate it because it's there. I'm a ham lady myself.
> My dad didn't like turkey either. He'd go out and hunt for a deer and
> Mom would cook up some deer meat. Yummmmeeee!!! Nothing like some good
> old sausage!!
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 22:20:08 -0500
>> From: Eric Welch <compelw at gmail.com>
>> To: NFB Senior Division list <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org>, "Lin H."
>> <iwannacu2 at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-seniors] How is everyone?
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>>
>> Everything is fine here in Baltimore,Md
>>
>> Eric L Welch
>> On Nov 23, 2014 8:55 AM, "Lin H. via Nfb-seniors" <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all! It?s been quiet here! How is everyone? Getting ready
>>> for Thanksgiving? Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving!
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Linda
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:46:19 +1030
>> From: "Valerie" <rosetta at adam.com.au>
>> To: "'Eric Welch'" <compelw at gmail.com>, "'NFB Senior Division list'"
>> <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-seniors] How is everyone?
>> Message-ID: <000001d00866$90724a40$b156dec0$@adam.com.au>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Hello Linda, We don't have Thanksgiving here in Aus, but it is getting
>> busier with Christmas so close. I am hoping it will not be too hot on
>> Christmas day, but if it is, we shall all be outdoors on the back
>> verandah enjoying lunch. I guess most on the list will have a cool
>> Christmas.
>>
>> I am thinking about a new screen reader programme or other possiblitlies,
>> what is everyone using on their computer, I have, at present, zoomtext
>> speech.
>>
>> Cheers to everyone on list.
>> Valerie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfb-seniors [mailto:nfb-seniors-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Eric Welch via Nfb-seniors
>> Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2014 1:50 PM
>> To: NFB Senior Division list; Lin H.
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-seniors] How is everyone?
>>
>> Everything is fine here in Baltimore,Md
>>
>> Eric L Welch
>> On Nov 23, 2014 8:55 AM, "Lin H. via Nfb-seniors" <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all! It?s been quiet here! How is everyone? Getting ready
>>> for Thanksgiving? Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving!
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Linda
>>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:56:20 -0500
> From: Jannis Butler <jannisbutler at gmail.com>
> To: "Lin H." <iwannacu2 at sbcglobal.net>, NFB Senior Division list
> <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-seniors] Nfb-seniors Digest, Vol 65, Issue 12
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> Hello everyone, Thanksgiving is upon us and I wish that all of you will have a very safe and enjoyable day. I was alsoa former jaws use her; however, now that I am retired I am using the Apple iPhone and the Apple iPad. I think they are absolutely great. Hopefully, there will be a touchscreen laptop by Apple one day soon. Cordially,jannis from DC
>
> Jannis Butler's iPhone 5'
>
> On Nov 25, 2014, at 2:36 PM, "Lin H. via Nfb-seniors" <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> I also use JAWS screen reader, and it works good for me! I wish I could learn more with it! My best thing to do with it is emails! LOL! Going to my sister's for the Holiday! Sincerely, Linda
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Bernadette Jacobs via Nfb-seniors
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 7:34 AM
> To: nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org ; nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-seniors] Nfb-seniors Digest, Vol 65, Issue 12
>
> Hey Valerie: As for screen readers, I've done JHAWS since 1995. I've
> played around with Window Eyes, but for some reason, can't seem to get
> it very well. Can't stand NVDA. Just because it's free, doesn't mean
> it works for me. I've just never been real crazy about it. Yeah, I
> guess some of us folks don't like change. It's easier to stay with what
> I've had since dirt. Don't do change if I don't have to. I don't
> always upgrade though because they think I should and they want what
> little money I have...
>
>
> As for Thanksgiving, We're going to Bill's Mom and Step-Dad's. Been
> baking like a fiend in between laundry loads. Other than that,
> everyone's just great around here. Getting everything ready to go. In
> case I don't get on again, all you guys have a Blessed Thanksgiving!!!
> Believe it or not, Thanksgiving is actually my favorite holiday. I
> think we should be thankful year-round. I guess that's why I like it.
> Not because of the food. To be perfectly honest, Turkey is too dry for
> me. I simply tolerate it because it's there. I'm a ham lady myself.
> My dad didn't like turkey either. He'd go out and hunt for a deer and
> Mom would cook up some deer meat. Yummmmeeee!!! Nothing like some good
> old sausage!!
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>> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 22:20:08 -0500
>> From: Eric Welch <compelw at gmail.com>
>> To: NFB Senior Division list <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org>, "Lin H."
>> <iwannacu2 at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-seniors] How is everyone?
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> Everything is fine here in Baltimore,Md
>>
>> Eric L Welch
>> On Nov 23, 2014 8:55 AM, "Lin H. via Nfb-seniors" <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all! It?s been quiet here! How is everyone? Getting ready
>>> for Thanksgiving? Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving! Sincerely,
>>> Linda
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:46:19 +1030
>> From: "Valerie" <rosetta at adam.com.au>
>> To: "'Eric Welch'" <compelw at gmail.com>, "'NFB Senior Division list'"
>> <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-seniors] How is everyone?
>> Message-ID: <000001d00866$90724a40$b156dec0$@adam.com.au>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Hello Linda, We don't have Thanksgiving here in Aus, but it is getting busier with Christmas so close. I am hoping it will not be too hot on Christmas day, but if it is, we shall all be outdoors on the back verandah enjoying lunch. I guess most on the list will have a cool Christmas.
>>
>> I am thinking about a new screen reader programme or other possiblitlies, what is everyone using on their computer, I have, at present, zoomtext speech.
>>
>> Cheers to everyone on list.
>> Valerie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfb-seniors [mailto:nfb-seniors-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eric Welch via Nfb-seniors
>> Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2014 1:50 PM
>> To: NFB Senior Division list; Lin H.
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-seniors] How is everyone?
>>
>> Everything is fine here in Baltimore,Md
>>
>> Eric L Welch
>> On Nov 23, 2014 8:55 AM, "Lin H. via Nfb-seniors" <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all! It?s been quiet here! How is everyone? Getting ready
>>> for Thanksgiving? Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving! Sincerely,
>>> Linda
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