[nfb-talk] Future NFB Conventions

Thu Nov 26 20:25:07 UTC 2009

Darian:

You make a valid point. However, the essence of the NFB mission is to work toward the complete integration of the blind into society on a basis of equality with the sighted. Nothing is stopping you or any of us from participating in other community activities and causes; indeed, I would opine that this is the very thing we are striving for. Hence, I believe that we, the NFB, should stick to blindness-related activities and encourage to the utmost our members to take part in the *regular* community's causes, organizations and activities rather than involving NFB in them as their focus is not primarily that with which NFB is concerned.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Date: Thursday, Nov 26, 2009 11:13:26
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Future NFB Conventions

>
>
> It's great to listen and learn, that's whyI enjoy  convention so much,
> as well the energy is fgreat and the oppertunity to meet some good
> people.
>   to get involved in the community is something that can be done.   We
> make the time to march; something that is valid and important, but
> when do we make that time to make  gatherings of blind people not
> simply about us as blind people.  Sometimes it's worth asking
> ourselves to consider  the needs  others as well as ourselves.
> 
> On 11/26/09, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
> > With respect, that's nuts! We have traditionally chosen a holiday because
> > many of us who are working can use the holiday for part of ourconvention
> > time. The 4th of July is a good compromise between holidays and bad wether.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Date: Thursday, Nov 26, 2009 8:00:45
> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Future NFB Conventions
> >
> >thx^^;".
> >thx^^;".
> >thx^^;". hi,
> >thx^^;".
> >thx^^;". nfb/blind people tend to isolate themselves from the sighted world and
> >thx^^;". don't
> >thx^^;". consider that some members prefer to spend their fourth of july events
> >thx^^;". with
> >thx^^;". sighted friends instead of sitting in a hotel.
> >thx^^;".
> >thx^^;". Bryan Schulz
> >thx^^;".
> >thx^^;". ----- Original Message -----
> >thx^^;". From: "Wm. Ritchhart was <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>
> >thx^^;". To: "'Ationfb Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >thx^^;". Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 6:46 AM
> >thx^^;". Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Future NFB Conventions
> >thx^^;".
> >thx^^;".
> >thx^^;". >I would only add to this string with the comment that at the last
> >thx^^;". > national
> >thx^^;". > convention I attended, this topic was brought up.  Both the issue of
> >thx^^;". > paying
> >thx^^;". > more and changing the time were presented.  Overwhelmingly both items
> >thx^^;". > were
> >thx^^;". > massively defeated.
> >thx^^;". >
> >thx^^;". > So long as the membership is determined to pay as little as possible and
> >thx^^;". > keeping the convention in the first days of July, choices will be
> >thx^^;". > extremely
> >thx^^;". > limited.
> >thx^^;". >
> >thx^^;". > I personally would rather undergo massive tooth extraction than spend a
> >thx^^;". > week
> >thx^^;". > in Dallas in July.  Especially when the hotel is basically isolated.  So
> >thx^^;". > that one cannot just walk out and access the city.
> >thx^^;". >
> >thx^^;". > Orlando holds great promise.  Indeed I cannot believe that Marc allowed
> >thx^^;". > the
> >thx^^;". > convention to be booked in such a desirable tourist location.  Having
> >thx^^;". > stayed
> >thx^^;". > in Orlando when attending the Daytona 500, I am aware of all the
> >thx^^;". > distractions beyond Disney.  There is enough in Orlando to make skipping
> >thx^^;". >
> >thx^^;". > the
> >thx^^;". > boring guy from agency X look very attractive.  And there are enough
> >thx^^;". > tourist
> >thx^^;". > attractions to make skipping him easy.
> >thx^^;". >
> >thx^^;". >
> >thx^^;". > Thanks, William
> >thx^^;". > -----Original Message-----
> >thx^^;". > From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >thx^^;". > On
> >thx^^;". > Behalf Of Mike Freeman
> >thx^^;". > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 2:43 PM
> >thx^^;". > To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
> >thx^^;". > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Future NFB Conventions
> >thx^^;". >
> >thx^^;". > True enough! This stems from at least two factors: First, the number of
> >thx^^;". > convention attendees has increased greatly, making it harder to find a
> >thx^^;". > single hotel that will hold a majority of them. In essence, we're too
> >thx^^;". > big
> >thx^^;". > for the smaller hotels and not quite big enough for the megahotels.
> >thx^^;". >
> >thx^^;". > Second, despite the severe economic down-turn (or, perhaps, because of
> >thx^^;". > it),
> >thx^^;". > hotels have become far tougher to negotiate with than in days of yore,
> >thx^^;". > necessitating making of contracts farther out in order to get anything
> >thx^^;". > like
> >thx^^;". > the rates NFB members are used to.
> >thx^^;". >
> >thx^^;". > Mike
> >thx^^;". >
> >thx^^;". > ----- Original Message -----
> >thx^^;". > From: "Gerardo Corripio" <gera1027 at gmail.com>
> >thx^^;". > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >thx^^;". > Date: Wednesday, Nov 25, 2009 11:32:06
> >thx^^;". > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Future NFB Conventions
> >thx^^;". >
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;".
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;".
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". I've noticed that in the past more cities were sites of NFB conventions
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". whereas since about 2004 or so the only cities I've heard where
> >thx^^;". > conventions
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". are have been either Dallas, Atlanta whereas in years past I've heard
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". that
> >thx^^;". >
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". cities as Kansas, Houston, Denver and San Francisco I think was once
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". site
> >thx^^;". > of
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". a convention.
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". Gerardo
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". ----- Original Message -----
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 11:00 AM
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Future NFB Conventions
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;".
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;".
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". You know, it might take some bit of nagotiation, but I would love to
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". see National convention in San Francisco. I mean, think of the
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". possibilities... You  can have people touring the city, students could
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". visit  both San Francisco state and UC Berkley,  Guide dogs for the
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". blind is  basically right across the goldengate bridge, oh, and did  I
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". mention the goldengate bridge? you can have  the march crossing the
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". goldengate bridge.
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;".  and  for those people who like baseball and tend to visit the ball
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". yard... AT&T Park is about  as pretty of a park as they come. you can
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". take the bus and find some good food about anywhere in the city.
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;".  Not to mention that you could  get alot of attention by just being in
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". san
> >thx^^;". >
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". fran.
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;".  Besides,  one of our historically great leaders came from northern
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". california.
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;".  I think  that's  all amazing reasons  to  make  a national convention
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". a golden gate event.
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;".   Darian
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;".
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". On 11/25/09, d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net> wrote:
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". > thanks Mike I will do just that.
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". > Sure would love to see NFB in Colorado again.
> >thx^^;". >thx^^;". >
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> -- 
> The National Federation of the Blind has launched a nationwide teacher
> recruitment campaign to help attract energetic and passionate
> individuals into the field of blindness education, and we need your
> help!   To Get Involved  go to:
> www.TeachBlindStudents.org
> 
> 
> "And if you will join me in this improbable quest, if you feel destiny
> calling, and see as I see, a future of endless possibility stretching
> before us;
> if you sense, as I sense, that the time is now to shake off our
> slumber, and slough off our fear, and make good on the debt we owe
> past and future generations,
> then I'm ready to take up the cause, and march with you, and work with
> you. Together, starting today, let us finish the work that needs to be
> done, and
> usher in a new birth of freedom on this Earth.?- Baraq Obama
> 
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