[nfb-talk] Check Out This Link On RushLimbaughtalking aboutblind justice

Fri Aug 13 03:44:21 UTC 2010

I think that this has nothing to do with his views.  A lot o shows charge or 
extra perks.  That is called ree enterprise andfff there are several blind 
folks who use his services and pay.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dewey Bradley" <dewey.bradley at att.net>
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Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Check Out This Link On RushLimbaughtalking 
aboutblind justice


> Even though he has a point about the Black panthers, I don't see what it 
> would have anything to do with the NFB.
> He is so full of him self that all that money he makes from his show, he 
> still will charge you to listen to it on line, The guy can't even keep a 
> marriage, how many times has he been married, 7 times I think.
> So he has no room to go on a tirade on anyone.
> besides the fact that he doesn't even have his facts correct on this.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Bullis" <mabullis at hotmail.com>
> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 6:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Check Out This Link On Rush Limbaughtalking 
> aboutblind justice
>
>
>> What I found rather odd about it was that the commentary on kindle and 
>> the
>> nfb didn't seem to be related to the issue of the Black Panthers and the
>> Justice Department.  I know about both issues but don't see the
>> relationship.  And, significantly, he never explains it.  He never says, 
>> "so
>> you see that a justice department that excludes book reader tests would
>> obviously be against white people."
>> So, my conclusion is that he's reaching and counting on the fact that he 
>> has
>> an audience not particularly familiar with logic or straight line 
>> thinking.
>> So, the question is, do we make some political hay out of this which is 
>> what
>> he wants?  Or, do we ignore him as being not on track.
>> My view is that we go after him because in a media fight we can probably
>> win.
>> But....
>> What do you all think?
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:44 PM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Check Out This Link On Rush Limbaugh talking
>> aboutblind justice
>>
>> I interpreted his diatribe as calling Obama's people bigoted morons, not
>> NFB.
>>
>> Mike Freeman
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Aug 12, 2010, at 12:23, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh no I won't.  I was offended that he called us a bunch of "bigoted
>> morons".  I was offended that he, and too many of his kind, do not seem 
>> to
>> want to understand the NFB position on this matter.  I could ask why you
>> decide now to be so ugly about this; but, I will refrain.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>
>>> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!
>>>
>>> E-Mail:
>>> rforetjr at comcast dot net
>>> Skype Name:
>>> barefootedray
>>>
>>> On Aug 12, 2010, at 2:03 PM, John Heim wrote:
>>>
>>>> Your disappointment with Rush Limbaugh aside, what's wrong with what he
>> said?I mean, specifically, where do you disagree with his comments? 
>> Because
>> I don't think you can disagree with him without trampling on several 
>> sacred
>> cows of the conservative point of view.
>>>>
>>>> Are you in favor of the Justice Department telling Amazon how to run
>> their business? If you don't like it that Case-Western University is 
>> giving
>> out kindles, go somewhere else. Go to UCLA or the University of 
>> Wisconsin.
>> Or go to Case-Western and opt out of the kindle program. Where is it 
>> written
>> that government is responsible for making sure that everything is fair? I
>> don't remember seeing that in the Constitution.  If the kindle isn't
>> accessible, why don't you invent your own kindle-like device that is
>> accessible. Amazon didn't exist 15 years ago. They built that business up
>> from nothing. If accessibility is so important, why don't you get out 
>> there
>> and build your own Amazon that is 100% accessible and put Amazon out of
>> business? Otherwise, stop holding everybody else back just so you can 
>> make
>> it in this world. Or are you one of those guys who thinks everybody has 
>> to
>> win? You think that if Little Johnny comes in 87th he should get a pat on
>> the back, told he did a good job,
>>>  and get handed an 87th place medal he can have framed and put above the
>> fireplace?
>>>>
>>>> Boy, I'd better be careful here. Next thing I know you'll change your
>> mind and side with Limbaugh after all.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" 
>>>> <rforetjr at comcast.net>
>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:15 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Check Out This Link On Rush Limbaugh talking
>> aboutblind justice
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I believe that everybody on this list knows of my political 
>>>>> affiliation
>> with the conservative side.  Let me say something about this Limbaugh 
>> piece.
>> I find it extremely offensive.  I have never felt so betrayed by someone 
>> who
>> was supposedly one of my own!!!  It's quite clear to me that there are 
>> many
>> issues which this brings up; but, I will touch on only one of them here.
>> Sadly, it is the case that many political conservatives and Republican 
>> party
>> mouth pieces will not understand our point of view.  Note that I did not 
>> say
>> do not understand; rather, I said "will not understand"; big difference. 
>> I
>> first began to see the sad truth of this back in 2005 when the secretary 
>> of
>> education, Spelling, wanted to cut out individual rehab services offices. 
>> I
>> dare say we all remember what happened in consequence of that.  Joanne
>> wilson resigned her position and became a private citizen.  I believe 
>> that
>> was when the light really went off in my head about the truth of what was
>> really
>>> go
>>>>> ing on.  Small wonder that we are in the situation we are in.  The
>> trouble with political conservatives is this.  Many of them say words 
>> that
>> they know that the true conservatives want to hear, and, maybe some of 
>> them
>> even believe those words.  The trouble is this.  They are saying those 
>> words
>> for the sake of political expediency.  Now, on the other hand, my 
>> personal
>> life experience has taught me that it just doesn't work that way. When
>> people like Rush Limbaugh make statements such as he made in this piece, 
>> he
>> only serves to hurt both the blindness cause, and also, the conservative
>> cause also.  I want to say something else for the record. There was a 
>> time
>> when I did used to listen to him; but, over the course of the past five
>> years or so, I ceased to listen to hymn; especially after Hurricane 
>> Katrina.
>> I felt that he was no longer what he once had been, and, I felt that he 
>> had
>> lost focus.  Frankly, as a blind conservative, I find myself very much
>> offended by what Limbaugh
>>>>> says here because what we have is a fundamental lack of the will to
>> understand our point of view.  To put it bluntly, he's going for
>> sensationalism and not much if anything else.  Be that as it may, words 
>> mean
>> things.  The way people use words also means things.  I cannot help but
>> wonder how this effects other blind conservatives; but, that subject 
>> matter,
>> I forbear to enter.  Doubtless, blind people on the other side of the 
>> isle,
>> (so to speak) are wondering why, in the face of Limbaugh's tirade, we can
>> still feel as we do.  I will not discuss this except to say that we who 
>> are
>> blind conservatives do not need Limbaugh to tell us what to think.  I 
>> feel
>> as I do and think as I do and have done so long before I ever heard 
>> Limbaugh
>> for the first time.  Sadly, this recent event more than confirms 
>> something I
>> have long thought.  But, that is a subject which does not directly touch 
>> the
>> blindness factors, and so, I will leave it to another group or time.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> E-Mail:
>>
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