[nfb-talk] Here We Go Again

Ray Foret Jr rforetjr at att.net
Sat Dec 4 14:23:08 UTC 2010


Cindy's right Brian.  That's what I've been getting from you the whole thread.  Dude, maybe you need to go to LCB:

www.lbc-ruston.com


Sincerely, 
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!

Skype Name:
barefootedray

On Dec 4, 2010, at 8:08 AM, Cindy Handel wrote:

> Brian,
> 
> I think you're assuming that the blind guy is going at this with no 
> experience.  Certainly, when a blind person starts to do building or 
> carpentry, he/she will be slow.  But, a new craftsman who is sighted will be 
> slow, too.  Speed comes with experience, whether you're sighted or blind. 
> If you don't do this kind of work and have never tried to learn it as a 
> blind person, then you have no reference to understand how a blind person 
> can accomplish the job and compete with a sighted person, doing the same 
> job.  But, please don't discount the blind person, just because he's blind.
> 
> Cindy
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 2:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> 
> 
> hi,
> 
> sometimes it depends on the task.
> say cutting a sheet of plywood, i believe a blind guy can operate the saw
> and cut the sheet but i don't believe it could be done without the start and
> end point being more than 1/16th of an inch different and as fast as a
> sighted carpenter and that's the point people refuse to accept.
> getting the job done is possible but the public doesn't tolerate time lags
> taken by the blind cohart.
> now days, air compressors run nail guns and you only get one pop. is the
> blind guy going to knowwhen the nail goes into the sheet and misses the stud
> with all the noise?
> how happy is the boss going to be when you just blew 10 minutes doing a line
> of nails and you were not hitting the stud?
> 
> Bryan Schulz
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 12:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> 
> 
>> In an attempt to keep on topic, let me remind you that sighted folks don't
>> hit the mail on the head every time.  They mash their fingers too.  YOu
>> think they don't have accidents?  Well, guess what, they do.  I'm trying
>> real hard not to make assumptions about you or your level of independance,
>> but, I'd just like to put one question to you sir.  Do you not believe in
>> your heart of hearts that the blind can really do these things?  Seems to
>> me we cannot have a very meaningful discussion until we address that one.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype Name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:50 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>> 
>>> hi,
>>> 
>>> i'm not taking it personal.
>>> what irks me is that blind people get pissed if they are told they can't
>>> do something and take it as because you are blind and don't stop to
>>> consider what is reality or what makes sense.
>>> of course a blind person can swing a hammer or use a power saw but are
>>> they going to be able to hold a board with one handand hit the nail dead
>>> center every swing or cutthe the line exactly while keeping a half sheet
>>> of plywood from falling with the other hand and the point that blind
>>> people fail to accept is will those or other tasks even come close to the
>>> speed of a sighted carpenter?
>>> are people really going to demand that the entire crew should be blind?
>>> do you really think that a sighted crew would allow a blind guy to be up
>>> on the roof slinging the plywood?
>>> 
>>> Bryan Schulz
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 11:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hey, it aint personal.  How come you gotta take it personally?  What's
>>>> the matter?  Can't stand truly independant blind people?  I see it all
>>>> the time.  The dependant blind call the independant blind "super
>>>> blinks". Why?  Well, my own idea about that is that they are jealous of
>>>> what we have and are; but, instead of bettering themselves, they get
>>>> mad.
>>>> 
>>>> tisk tisk tisk.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>> 
>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>> 
>>>> Skype Name:
>>>> barefootedray
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:13 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> put up some $$ cuz they say bs walks!
>>>>> i'm tired of people talking smack and telling other people they are
>>>>> full of sh$$ about various topics.
>>>>> i have been going to professional nhra drag races for 20 years and the
>>>>> teams do rebuild an alcohol or nitro motor in about 30 minutes after
>>>>> each run.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jay Blake owns the follow a dream alcohol funny car and he is
>>>>> completely capable of working on the motor but not at the same pace as
>>>>> sighted mechanics on race day and has the sense to accept that instead
>>>>> of being a weak link.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:34 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Got news for you bro.  There's no way it takes just thirty minutes.
>>>>>> You've heard of editing right?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Skype Name:
>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 10:29 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> don't play the pity card bro!
>>>>>>> i'm just telling people what happens in the real world outside of the
>>>>>>> nfb bubble.
>>>>>>> did you understand it's the pace and not the ability?
>>>>>>> the man's race team completely rebuilds a  motor in 30 minutes.
>>>>>>> i would love to see the blind man actually spinning the air gun and
>>>>>>> working on the motor on race day but he has realized that the team
>>>>>>> has more success when he stays out of the way and let his employees
>>>>>>> perform the rebuild.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:11 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> And what would you propose?  Leaving things the way they are?  Don't
>>>>>>>> you think there are any blind people actually involved in the
>>>>>>>> building of their own homes?  Could it be that you don't think we do
>>>>>>>> much of anything? Oh, of course.  Sit in rocking chairs and listen
>>>>>>>> to our state provided reading radio service.  Yeah, that's the life
>>>>>>>> for sure.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Skype Name:
>>>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> wishful thinking...
>>>>>>>>> people here have no clue what happens in the one week build.
>>>>>>>>> a relative worked on one and there were all kind of worksmanship
>>>>>>>>> f-ups and people running everywhere.
>>>>>>>>> you really think a blind guy is going to carry sheets of drywall
>>>>>>>>> with material and tools all over the site without falling?
>>>>>>>>> you don't get the pace.  just like there is a blind guy who owns a
>>>>>>>>> racing team but doesn't do the actual repair during race day due to
>>>>>>>>> the time limits.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Constance Canode"
>>>>>>>>> <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 7:43 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Ray, that is an absolutely awesome idea.  Now if we can implement
>>>>>>>>>> it, people would certainly get a different perspective on what
>>>>>>>>>> blind people are really like.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Connie Canode
>>>>>>>>>> At 11:43 AM 12/3/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> YOu know Peter, I was just kind of thinking.  I know of only one
>>>>>>>>>>> way to stop this.  What we need to do is get some independent and
>>>>>>>>>>> competent blind people on the make over crew.  Once we do that,
>>>>>>>>>>> maybe they'll get the idea.  Barring that, maybe we ought to have
>>>>>>>>>>> some competent blind people at least helping out on a make-over
>>>>>>>>>>> project; since I'm sure they wouldn't let us officially be part
>>>>>>>>>>> of what I presume bills itself as a professional make-over crew.
>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Skype Name:
>>>>>>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Peter Donahue wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello John and everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>   If you take the time to read the message I sent concerning
>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>>>>>>> we had when looking for an apartment last spring you'd
>>>>>>>>>>>> understand >  > why >  > the
>>>>>>>>>>>> red flags are flying. If Extreme Make-Over Home Edition
>>>>>>>>>>>> continues
>>>>>>>>>>> to portray
>>>>>>>>>>>> us as helpless unable to live on our own without major
>>>>>>>>>>> modifications to the
>>>>>>>>>>>> home environment or a presumed dependency on a million gadgets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incidents
>>>>>>>>>>>> like the one I described in my message earlier this morning
>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> continue to
>>>>>>>>>>>> happen to blind people seeking housing. While we can't prove
>>>>>>>>>>>> that >  > the
>>>>>>>>>>>> manager at that apartment complex was influenced by an episode
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> this show
>>>>>>>>>>>> where a blind person or a couple were featured if this TV
>>>>>>>>>>>> network
>>>>>>>>>>> continues
>>>>>>>>>>>> to cast us as unable to manage our own home they'll certainly
>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> suspect in
>>>>>>>>>>>> my book.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "John Heim" <john at johnheim.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 9:40 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I'd presume because you don't make a lot of money as a >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disability
>>>>>>>>>>>> advocate.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 8:40 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I feel the same way.  First question that came to find...If >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> these >>  >> >> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> so fantastic and can motivate everyone to get past their >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disabilities, >> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have learned so much in the four years they've been
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind, >>  >> why >>  >> can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they maintain their house so it isn't falling down around
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:16 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hate to be this way, but, how come I'm already skepticle? >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone >>  >> care
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> guess why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype Name:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 2, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Ryan O wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Q From: Mary Watkins
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: MAG_News at mail4.wgbh.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 1:06 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ABC'S >>>  >>>  >>> >>> "Extreme
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Makeover: Home Edition" on Sunday, December 5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning into ABC'S
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Extreme >>>  >>>  >>> >>> Makeover:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Home Edition"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Sunday, December 5 (8-9pm, EST)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Media Access Group at WGBH encourages all those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested >>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inclusive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technology for people who are blind or have low vision to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tune >>>  >>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Extreme
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Makeover: Home Edition" this Sunday evening, December 5.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While >>> we >>>  >>>  >>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide any specific information on what will be seen and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heard >>>  >>> (it >>>  >>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spoil the surprise!), the episode promises to create much >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greater
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> awareness
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the services and products now available for people who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>  >>>  >>> >>> limited or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the information the production company has released
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>  >>>  >>> >>> advance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this episode:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" team has selected the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anderson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Family
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in Cleveland, Ohio. The family of four answered the call to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action >>>  >>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inspired the community to heighten their awareness of the >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obstacles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the disabled in their community. Diving headlong into their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work, >>>  >>>  >>> Andre
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jasmine have dedicated their time to supporting and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> counseling >>>  >>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disabled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by connecting them with resources to help them live and lead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent lives. The Andersons have proven to be the >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitive >>>  >>>  >>> role
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> models as they themselves lost their sight 4 years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Empowered by their own obstacles, Andre and Jasmine have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>>  >>> let
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow them down. Together they have teamed to complete grad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> school, >>>  >>> run a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> center for people with disabilities, created a support group,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>  >>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> balancing life at home with their 2 boys (one of whom is >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hearing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impaired).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite having lost their sight after their sons, Jasison and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jahzion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> born, Andre and Jasmine have rallied back and have embraced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While they continue to empower their community, the family
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has >>>  >>> hit >>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patch. Their home is falling apart around them and it has >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> become
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complicated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and hazardous for them to live in especially in the face of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how >>>  >>>  >>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue to grow.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On September 29th the Andersons will have some changes in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sight >>>  >>>  >>> when >>> Ty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pennington, designers Michael Maloney, Tracy Huston, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xzibit >>>  >>>  >>> >>> deliver a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Smart House" in just 7 days. Local builders Marous Brothers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Construction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and community volunteers will rebuild the structure and give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them >>>  >>> the >>> key
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live above and beyond their wildest dreams. The Andersons
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>  >>>  >>> >>> vacation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crested Butte, Colorado.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> About "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Emmy-award winning reality program "Extreme Makeover:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Home >>>  >>>  >>> >>> Edition,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in its 8th season, is produced by Endemol USA, a division of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Endemol
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holding. It's executive-produced Brady Connell and George >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Verschoor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goldberg is Chairman, Endemol North America. The show airs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sundays >>>  >>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8:00-9:00 p.m., ET on ABC.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> About the Media Access Group at WGBH
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Media Access Group at WGBH, which includes a Services >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> division >>>  >>> and a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> research and development division--the Carl and Ruth Shapiro
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> National
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Center for Accessible Media--has pioneered and delivered >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> captioned >>>  >>> and
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> classrooms, at work and in the community. And the Media
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continues to develop new solutions to access challenges as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technology,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the way we all consume media, evolve. Members of the group's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> staff represent the leading experts in their fields and their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> success >>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exemplified by a history of accomplishments and continuous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> growth, >>>  >>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integration of innovative products and services into society
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 36 >>>  >>>  >>> >>> million
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Contact:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RyanO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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