[nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
Joe Orozco
jsorozco at gmail.com
Sat Dec 4 14:42:59 UTC 2010
Ray,
I was squarely on your corner until you pulled out the LCB card. Let's face
it, the centers can't accommodate the growing population of blind
individuals. While we should see these centers as excellent resources to
advance one's independence, we should not see them as a prerequisite to
independence. I'd like to see the Center staff go out and educate private
shops on the method of teaching woodwork to blind people rather than
function as isolated beacons of hope for the masses. And, people should
have the option to receive this training while living in their own
communities versus stopping one's progress for nine months to learn skills
deemed by others to be important. This, I think, is a big part of this
concept of informed choice.
Regards,
Joe
"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 9:23 AM
To: NFB Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
Cindy's right Brian. That's what I've been getting from you
the whole thread. Dude, maybe you need to go to LCB:
www.lbc-ruston.com
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
Skype Name:
barefootedray
On Dec 4, 2010, at 8:08 AM, Cindy Handel wrote:
> Brian,
>
> I think you're assuming that the blind guy is going at this with no
> experience. Certainly, when a blind person starts to do building or
> carpentry, he/she will be slow. But, a new craftsman who is
sighted will be
> slow, too. Speed comes with experience, whether you're
sighted or blind.
> If you don't do this kind of work and have never tried to
learn it as a
> blind person, then you have no reference to understand how a
blind person
> can accomplish the job and compete with a sighted person,
doing the same
> job. But, please don't discount the blind person, just
because he's blind.
>
> Cindy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 2:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>
>
> hi,
>
> sometimes it depends on the task.
> say cutting a sheet of plywood, i believe a blind guy can
operate the saw
> and cut the sheet but i don't believe it could be done
without the start and
> end point being more than 1/16th of an inch different and as fast as a
> sighted carpenter and that's the point people refuse to accept.
> getting the job done is possible but the public doesn't
tolerate time lags
> taken by the blind cohart.
> now days, air compressors run nail guns and you only get one
pop. is the
> blind guy going to knowwhen the nail goes into the sheet and
misses the stud
> with all the noise?
> how happy is the boss going to be when you just blew 10
minutes doing a line
> of nails and you were not hitting the stud?
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 12:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>
>
>> In an attempt to keep on topic, let me remind you that
sighted folks don't
>> hit the mail on the head every time. They mash their
fingers too. YOu
>> think they don't have accidents? Well, guess what, they do.
I'm trying
>> real hard not to make assumptions about you or your level of
independance,
>> but, I'd just like to put one question to you sir. Do you
not believe in
>> your heart of hearts that the blind can really do these
things? Seems to
>> me we cannot have a very meaningful discussion until we
address that one.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>
>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>
>> Skype Name:
>> barefootedray
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:50 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> i'm not taking it personal.
>>> what irks me is that blind people get pissed if they are
told they can't
>>> do something and take it as because you are blind and don't stop to
>>> consider what is reality or what makes sense.
>>> of course a blind person can swing a hammer or use a power
saw but are
>>> they going to be able to hold a board with one handand hit
the nail dead
>>> center every swing or cutthe the line exactly while keeping
a half sheet
>>> of plywood from falling with the other hand and the point that blind
>>> people fail to accept is will those or other tasks even
come close to the
>>> speed of a sighted carpenter?
>>> are people really going to demand that the entire crew
should be blind?
>>> do you really think that a sighted crew would allow a blind
guy to be up
>>> on the roof slinging the plywood?
>>>
>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 11:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hey, it aint personal. How come you gotta take it
personally? What's
>>>> the matter? Can't stand truly independant blind people?
I see it all
>>>> the time. The dependant blind call the independant blind "super
>>>> blinks". Why? Well, my own idea about that is that they
are jealous of
>>>> what we have and are; but, instead of bettering
themselves, they get
>>>> mad.
>>>>
>>>> tisk tisk tisk.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>
>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>
>>>> Skype Name:
>>>> barefootedray
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:13 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> put up some $$ cuz they say bs walks!
>>>>> i'm tired of people talking smack and telling other
people they are
>>>>> full of sh$$ about various topics.
>>>>> i have been going to professional nhra drag races for 20
years and the
>>>>> teams do rebuild an alcohol or nitro motor in about 30
minutes after
>>>>> each run.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jay Blake owns the follow a dream alcohol funny car and he is
>>>>> completely capable of working on the motor but not at the
same pace as
>>>>> sighted mechanics on race day and has the sense to accept
that instead
>>>>> of being a weak link.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr"
<rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:34 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Got news for you bro. There's no way it takes just
thirty minutes.
>>>>>> You've heard of editing right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skype Name:
>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 10:29 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> don't play the pity card bro!
>>>>>>> i'm just telling people what happens in the real world
outside of the
>>>>>>> nfb bubble.
>>>>>>> did you understand it's the pace and not the ability?
>>>>>>> the man's race team completely rebuilds a motor in 30 minutes.
>>>>>>> i would love to see the blind man actually spinning the
air gun and
>>>>>>> working on the motor on race day but he has realized
that the team
>>>>>>> has more success when he stays out of the way and let
his employees
>>>>>>> perform the rebuild.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr"
<rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:11 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And what would you propose? Leaving things the way
they are? Don't
>>>>>>>> you think there are any blind people actually involved in the
>>>>>>>> building of their own homes? Could it be that you
don't think we do
>>>>>>>> much of anything? Oh, of course. Sit in rocking
chairs and listen
>>>>>>>> to our state provided reading radio service. Yeah,
that's the life
>>>>>>>> for sure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Skype Name:
>>>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wishful thinking...
>>>>>>>>> people here have no clue what happens in the one week build.
>>>>>>>>> a relative worked on one and there were all kind of
worksmanship
>>>>>>>>> f-ups and people running everywhere.
>>>>>>>>> you really think a blind guy is going to carry sheets
of drywall
>>>>>>>>> with material and tools all over the site without falling?
>>>>>>>>> you don't get the pace. just like there is a blind
guy who owns a
>>>>>>>>> racing team but doesn't do the actual repair during
race day due to
>>>>>>>>> the time limits.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Constance Canode"
>>>>>>>>> <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 7:43 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ray, that is an absolutely awesome idea. Now if we
can implement
>>>>>>>>>> it, people would certainly get a different
perspective on what
>>>>>>>>>> blind people are really like.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Connie Canode
>>>>>>>>>> At 11:43 AM 12/3/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> YOu know Peter, I was just kind of thinking. I
know of only one
>>>>>>>>>>> way to stop this. What we need to do is get some
independent and
>>>>>>>>>>> competent blind people on the make over crew. Once
we do that,
>>>>>>>>>>> maybe they'll get the idea. Barring that, maybe we
ought to have
>>>>>>>>>>> some competent blind people at least helping out on
a make-over
>>>>>>>>>>> project; since I'm sure they wouldn't let us
officially be part
>>>>>>>>>>> of what I presume bills itself as a professional
make-over crew.
>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Skype Name:
>>>>>>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Peter Donahue wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello John and everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you take the time to read the message I sent
concerning
>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>>>>>>> we had when looking for an apartment last spring you'd
>>>>>>>>>>>> understand > > why > > the
>>>>>>>>>>>> red flags are flying. If Extreme Make-Over Home Edition
>>>>>>>>>>>> continues
>>>>>>>>>>> to portray
>>>>>>>>>>>> us as helpless unable to live on our own without major
>>>>>>>>>>> modifications to the
>>>>>>>>>>>> home environment or a presumed dependency on a
million gadgets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incidents
>>>>>>>>>>>> like the one I described in my message earlier this morning
>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> continue to
>>>>>>>>>>>> happen to blind people seeking housing. While we
can't prove
>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > the
>>>>>>>>>>>> manager at that apartment complex was influenced
by an episode
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> this show
>>>>>>>>>>>> where a blind person or a couple were featured if this TV
>>>>>>>>>>>> network
>>>>>>>>>>> continues
>>>>>>>>>>>> to cast us as unable to manage our own home
they'll certainly
>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> suspect in
>>>>>>>>>>>> my book.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "John Heim" <john at johnheim.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 9:40 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I'd presume because you don't make a lot of
money as a >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disability
>>>>>>>>>>>> advocate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 8:40 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I feel the same way. First question that came to
find...If >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> these >> >> >> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> so fantastic and can motivate everyone to get
past their >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disabilities, >> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have learned so much in the four years they've been
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind, >> >> why >> >> can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they maintain their house so it isn't falling down around
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:16 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hate to be this way, but, how come I'm already
skepticle? >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone >> >> care
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> guess why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype Name:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 2, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Ryan O wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Q From: Mary Watkins
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: MAG_News at mail4.wgbh.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 1:06 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ABC'S >>> >>> >>> >>> "Extreme
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Makeover: Home Edition" on Sunday, December 5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning into ABC'S
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Extreme >>> >>> >>> >>> Makeover:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Home Edition"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Sunday, December 5 (8-9pm, EST)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Media Access Group at WGBH encourages all those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested >>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inclusive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technology for people who are blind or have low vision to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tune >>> >>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Extreme
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Makeover: Home Edition" this Sunday evening, December 5.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While >>> we >>> >>> >>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide any specific information on what will be seen and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heard >>> >>> (it >>> >>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spoil the surprise!), the episode promises to
create much >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greater
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> awareness
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the services and products now available for people who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>> >>> >>> >>> limited or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the information the production company
has released
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>> >>> >>> >>> advance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this episode:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" team has
selected the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anderson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Family
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in Cleveland, Ohio. The family of four answered
the call to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action >>> >>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inspired the community to heighten their
awareness of the >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obstacles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the disabled in their community. Diving headlong
into their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work, >>> >>> >>> Andre
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jasmine have dedicated their time to supporting and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> counseling >>> >>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disabled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by connecting them with resources to help them
live and lead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent lives. The Andersons have proven to
be the >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitive >>> >>> >>> role
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> models as they themselves lost their sight 4 years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Empowered by their own obstacles, Andre and Jasmine have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>> >>> let
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow them down. Together they have teamed to
complete grad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> school, >>> >>> run a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> center for people with disabilities, created a
support group,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>> >>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> balancing life at home with their 2 boys (one of
whom is >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hearing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impaired).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite having lost their sight after their
sons, Jasison and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jahzion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> born, Andre and Jasmine have rallied back and
have embraced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While they continue to empower their community,
the family
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has >>> >>> hit >>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patch. Their home is falling apart around them
and it has >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> become
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complicated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and hazardous for them to live in especially in
the face of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how >>> >>> >>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue to grow.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On September 29th the Andersons will have some changes in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sight >>> >>> >>> when >>> Ty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pennington, designers Michael Maloney, Tracy Huston, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xzibit >>> >>> >>> >>> deliver a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Smart House" in just 7 days. Local builders
Marous Brothers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Construction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and community volunteers will rebuild the
structure and give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them >>> >>> the >>> key
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live above and beyond their wildest dreams. The Andersons
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>> >>> >>> >>> vacation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crested Butte, Colorado.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> About "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Emmy-award winning reality program "Extreme Makeover:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Home >>> >>> >>> >>> Edition,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in its 8th season, is produced by Endemol USA, a
division of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Endemol
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holding. It's executive-produced Brady Connell
and George >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Verschoor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goldberg is Chairman, Endemol North America. The
show airs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sundays >>> >>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8:00-9:00 p.m., ET on ABC.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> About the Media Access Group at WGBH
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Media Access Group at WGBH, which includes a
Services >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> division >>> >>> and a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> research and development division--the Carl and
Ruth Shapiro
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Family
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> National
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Center for Accessible Media--has pioneered and
delivered >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> captioned >>> >>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> described media for nearly four decades to
people in their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> classrooms, at work and in the community. And the Media
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Access >>> >>> >>> Group
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continues to develop new solutions to access
challenges as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technology,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the way we all consume media, evolve. Members of
the group's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> staff represent the leading experts in their
fields and their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> success >>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exemplified by a history of accomplishments and
continuous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> growth, >>> >>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integration of innovative products and services
into society
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>> >>> >>> >>> large,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
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served, including
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 36 >>> >>> >>> >>> million
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who are deaf, hard of hearing, blind or have low
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vision. >>> >>> >>> More
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can be found
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Contact:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mary_watkins at wgbh.org
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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