[nfb-talk] Training

Constance Canode satin-bear at sbcglobal.net
Sat Dec 4 16:35:47 UTC 2010


Good point Joe.  There are several ways of thinking about this.  My 
husband is partially sighted and I would hate it if he went away for 
9 months.  I understand why it is done, but it would be really hard 
to be apart for that length of time, so your point is 
taken.  Happily, Rick's vision is fine and he doesn't have glaucoma 
or anything, and I don't think he would want to be away for 9 months 
either.  Very good point.

Connie Canode
At 10:29 AM 12/4/2010, you wrote:
>Connie,
>
>I think people attending the NFB centers face similar challenges of
>educating family members.  You raise a very good point, but the issue would
>not be unique to local training efforts.  If anything, I wonder if it might
>not be more difficult for people who go away for nine months, because the
>out of sight out of mind mentality might reinforce the family's preconceived
>notions, versus watching someone work day in and day out to learn new
>skills.  I am not underestimating the weight of family overprotection.  It
>took me a little while to feel comfortable about first switching to the long
>white cane and then using it regularly in public around my friends and
>relatives in high school, but my point wasn't so much the surrounding
>effects of training as much as the training itself.  I hope that with as
>many people enrolling in the rehab education programs that there will be
>more options than the traditional training scenario.  No one can deny that
>there is benefit to any training program, but insisting that putting one's
>life on hold to get trained does not seem, at least to me, to be the most
>effective marketing strategy to promote what otherwise seems like an
>excellent training model.
>
>Anyway, I hope that makes sense, and thank you for indulging my views.
>
>Best,
>
>Joe
>
>"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
>some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Constance Canode [mailto:satin-bear at sbcglobal.net]
>Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:51 AM
>To: jsorozco at gmail.com; NFB Talk Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>
>Joe, I see your point, but there is one slight problem with
>that.  There are unfortunately some blind people who live near or
>with over-protective families, especially young people, and I am
>afraid that in some instances the parents would hinder the
>progress.  A husband or wife could do the same thing for a recently
>blinded spouse for fear of not being needed or fear of the unknown
>and what they do not understand.  If training is given in the
>communities where people live, it would have to be extended to the
>family members as well.
>
>Connie Canode
>At 08:42 AM 12/4/2010, you wrote:
> >Ray,
> >
> >I was squarely on your corner until you pulled out the LCB
>card.  Let's face
> >it, the centers can't accommodate the growing population of blind
> >individuals.  While we should see these centers as excellent
>resources to
> >advance one's independence, we should not see them as a prerequisite to
> >independence.  I'd like to see the Center staff go out and
>educate private
> >shops on the method of teaching woodwork to blind people rather than
> >function as isolated beacons of hope for the masses.  And,
>people should
> >have the option to receive this training while living in their own
> >communities versus stopping one's progress for nine months to
>learn skills
> >deemed by others to be important.  This, I think, is a big part of this
> >concept of informed choice.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Joe
> >
> >"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up
>their sleeves,
> >some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
> >Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 9:23 AM
> >To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> >Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> >
> >Cindy's right Brian.  That's what I've been getting from you
> >the whole thread.  Dude, maybe you need to go to LCB:
> >
> >www.lbc-ruston.com
> >
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> >
> >Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
> >
> >Skype Name:
> >barefootedray
> >
> >On Dec 4, 2010, at 8:08 AM, Cindy Handel wrote:
> >
> > > Brian,
> > >
> > > I think you're assuming that the blind guy is going at this with no
> > > experience.  Certainly, when a blind person starts to do building or
> > > carpentry, he/she will be slow.  But, a new craftsman who is
> >sighted will be
> > > slow, too.  Speed comes with experience, whether you're
> >sighted or blind.
> > > If you don't do this kind of work and have never tried to
> >learn it as a
> > > blind person, then you have no reference to understand how a
> >blind person
> > > can accomplish the job and compete with a sighted person,
> >doing the same
> > > job.  But, please don't discount the blind person, just
> >because he's blind.
> > >
> > > Cindy
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> > > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 2:29 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> > >
> > >
> > > hi,
> > >
> > > sometimes it depends on the task.
> > > say cutting a sheet of plywood, i believe a blind guy can
> >operate the saw
> > > and cut the sheet but i don't believe it could be done
> >without the start and
> > > end point being more than 1/16th of an inch different and
>as fast as a
> > > sighted carpenter and that's the point people refuse to accept.
> > > getting the job done is possible but the public doesn't
> >tolerate time lags
> > > taken by the blind cohart.
> > > now days, air compressors run nail guns and you only get one
> >pop. is the
> > > blind guy going to knowwhen the nail goes into the sheet and
> >misses the stud
> > > with all the noise?
> > > how happy is the boss going to be when you just blew 10
> >minutes doing a line
> > > of nails and you were not hitting the stud?
> > >
> > > Bryan Schulz
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
> > > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 12:12 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> > >
> > >
> > >> In an attempt to keep on topic, let me remind you that
> >sighted folks don't
> > >> hit the mail on the head every time.  They mash their
> >fingers too.  YOu
> > >> think they don't have accidents?  Well, guess what, they do.
> >  I'm trying
> > >> real hard not to make assumptions about you or your level of
> >independance,
> > >> but, I'd just like to put one question to you sir.  Do you
> >not believe in
> > >> your heart of hearts that the blind can really do these
> >things?  Seems to
> > >> me we cannot have a very meaningful discussion until we
> >address that one.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Sincerely,
> > >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> > >>
> > >> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
> > >>
> > >> Skype Name:
> > >> barefootedray
> > >>
> > >> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:50 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> i'm not taking it personal.
> > >>> what irks me is that blind people get pissed if they are
> >told they can't
> > >>> do something and take it as because you are blind and
>don't stop to
> > >>> consider what is reality or what makes sense.
> > >>> of course a blind person can swing a hammer or use a power
> >saw but are
> > >>> they going to be able to hold a board with one handand hit
> >the nail dead
> > >>> center every swing or cutthe the line exactly while keeping
> >a half sheet
> > >>> of plywood from falling with the other hand and the point
>that blind
> > >>> people fail to accept is will those or other tasks even
> >come close to the
> > >>> speed of a sighted carpenter?
> > >>> are people really going to demand that the entire crew
> >should be blind?
> > >>> do you really think that a sighted crew would allow a blind
> >guy to be up
> > >>> on the roof slinging the plywood?
> > >>>
> > >>> Bryan Schulz
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr"
><rforetjr at att.net>
> > >>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > >>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 11:36 PM
> > >>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hey, it aint personal.  How come you gotta take it
> >personally?  What's
> > >>>> the matter?  Can't stand truly independant blind people?
> >I see it all
> > >>>> the time.  The dependant blind call the independant blind "super
> > >>>> blinks". Why?  Well, my own idea about that is that they
> >are jealous of
> > >>>> what we have and are; but, instead of bettering
> >themselves, they get
> > >>>> mad.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> tisk tisk tisk.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Sincerely,
> > >>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Skype Name:
> > >>>> barefootedray
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:13 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> put up some $$ cuz they say bs walks!
> > >>>>> i'm tired of people talking smack and telling other
> >people they are
> > >>>>> full of sh$$ about various topics.
> > >>>>> i have been going to professional nhra drag races for 20
> >years and the
> > >>>>> teams do rebuild an alcohol or nitro motor in about 30
> >minutes after
> > >>>>> each run.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Jay Blake owns the follow a dream alcohol funny car and he is
> > >>>>> completely capable of working on the motor but not at the
> >same pace as
> > >>>>> sighted mechanics on race day and has the sense to accept
> >that instead
> > >>>>> of being a weak link.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Bryan Schulz
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr"
> ><rforetjr at att.net>
> > >>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > >>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:34 PM
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Got news for you bro.  There's no way it takes just
> >thirty minutes.
> > >>>>>> You've heard of editing right?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Sincerely,
> > >>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Skype Name:
> > >>>>>> barefootedray
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 10:29 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> don't play the pity card bro!
> > >>>>>>> i'm just telling people what happens in the real world
> >outside of the
> > >>>>>>> nfb bubble.
> > >>>>>>> did you understand it's the pace and not the ability?
> > >>>>>>> the man's race team completely rebuilds a  motor in
>30 minutes.
> > >>>>>>> i would love to see the blind man actually spinning the
> >air gun and
> > >>>>>>> working on the motor on race day but he has realized
> >that the team
> > >>>>>>> has more success when he stays out of the way and let
> >his employees
> > >>>>>>> perform the rebuild.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Bryan Schulz
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr"
> ><rforetjr at att.net>
> > >>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:11 PM
> > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> And what would you propose?  Leaving things the way
> >they are?  Don't
> > >>>>>>>> you think there are any blind people actually involved in the
> > >>>>>>>> building of their own homes?  Could it be that you
> >don't think we do
> > >>>>>>>> much of anything? Oh, of course.  Sit in rocking
> >chairs and listen
> > >>>>>>>> to our state provided reading radio service.  Yeah,
> >that's the life
> > >>>>>>>> for sure.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Sincerely,
> > >>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Skype Name:
> > >>>>>>>> barefootedray
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> wishful thinking...
> > >>>>>>>>> people here have no clue what happens in the one week build.
> > >>>>>>>>> a relative worked on one and there were all kind of
> >worksmanship
> > >>>>>>>>> f-ups and people running everywhere.
> > >>>>>>>>> you really think a blind guy is going to carry sheets
> >of drywall
> > >>>>>>>>> with material and tools all over the site without falling?
> > >>>>>>>>> you don't get the pace.  just like there is a blind
> >guy who owns a
> > >>>>>>>>> racing team but doesn't do the actual repair during
> >race day due to
> > >>>>>>>>> the time limits.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Bryan Schulz
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Constance Canode"
> > >>>>>>>>> <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
> > >>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 7:43 PM
> > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Ray, that is an absolutely awesome idea.  Now if we
> >can implement
> > >>>>>>>>>> it, people would certainly get a different
> >perspective on what
> > >>>>>>>>>> blind people are really like.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Connie Canode
> > >>>>>>>>>> At 11:43 AM 12/3/2010, you wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> YOu know Peter, I was just kind of thinking.  I
> >know of only one
> > >>>>>>>>>>> way to stop this.  What we need to do is get some
> >independent and
> > >>>>>>>>>>> competent blind people on the make over crew.  Once
> >we do that,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> maybe they'll get the idea.  Barring that, maybe we
> >ought to have
> > >>>>>>>>>>> some competent blind people at least helping out on
> >a make-over
> > >>>>>>>>>>> project; since I'm sure they wouldn't let us
> >officially be part
> > >>>>>>>>>>> of what I presume bills itself as a professional
> >make-over crew.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Skype Name:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> barefootedray
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Peter Donahue wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello John and everyone,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>   If you take the time to read the message I sent
> >concerning
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> an
> > >>>>>>>>>>> experience
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we had when looking for an apartment last spring you'd
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> understand >  > why >  > the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> red flags are flying. If Extreme Make-Over Home Edition
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> continues
> > >>>>>>>>>>> to portray
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> us as helpless unable to live on our own without major
> > >>>>>>>>>>> modifications to the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> home environment or a presumed dependency on a
> >million gadgets
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incidents
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> like the one I described in my message earlier
>this morning
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> will
> > >>>>>>>>>>> continue to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> happen to blind people seeking housing. While we
> >can't prove
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> that >  > the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> manager at that apartment complex was influenced
> >by an episode
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>>>> this show
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> where a blind person or a couple were featured if this TV
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> network
> > >>>>>>>>>>> continues
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to cast us as unable to manage our own home
> >they'll certainly
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> be
> > >>>>>>>>>>> suspect in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> my book.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Peter Donahue
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From: "John Heim" <john at johnheim.net>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 9:40 AM
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I'd presume because you don't make a lot of
> >money as a >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> disability
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> advocate.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 8:40 PM
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I feel the same way.  First question that came to
> >find...If >>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> these >>  >> >> people
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> so fantastic and can motivate everyone to get
> >past their >> >>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disabilities, >> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> they have learned so much in the four years they've been
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> blind, >>  >> why >>  >> can't
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> they maintain their house so it isn't falling
>down around
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> them?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:16 PM
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I hate to be this way, but, how come I'm already
> >skepticle? >>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone >>  >> care
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> guess why?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype Name:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> barefootedray
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 2, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Ryan O wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Q From: Mary Watkins
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: MAG_News at mail4.wgbh.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 1:06 PM
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages
>Tuning into
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ABC'S >>>  >>>  >>> >>> "Extreme
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Makeover: Home Edition" on Sunday, December 5
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning into ABC'S
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Extreme >>>  >>>  >>> >>> Makeover:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Home Edition"
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Sunday, December 5 (8-9pm, EST)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Media Access Group at WGBH encourages all those
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested >>> in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> inclusive
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> technology for people who are blind or have
>low vision to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tune >>>  >>> into
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Extreme
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Makeover: Home Edition" this Sunday evening,
>December 5.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> While >>> we >>>  >>>  >>> can't
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide any specific information on what will
>be seen and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> heard >>>  >>> (it >>>  >>> would
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spoil the surprise!), the episode promises to
> >create much >>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> greater
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> awareness
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the services and products now available for
>people who
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>  >>>  >>> >>> limited or
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sight.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the information the production company
> >has released
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>  >>>  >>> >>> advance
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this episode:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" team has
> >selected the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anderson
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Family
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in Cleveland, Ohio. The family of four answered
> >the call to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action >>>  >>> when
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> inspired the community to heighten their
> >awareness of the >>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obstacles
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> facing
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the disabled in their community. Diving headlong
> >into their
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work, >>>  >>>  >>> Andre
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jasmine have dedicated their time to supporting and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> counseling >>>  >>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> disabled
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by connecting them with resources to help them
> >live and lead
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent lives. The Andersons have proven to
> >be the >>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitive >>>  >>>  >>> role
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> models as they themselves lost their sight 4 years ago.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Empowered by their own obstacles, Andre and
>Jasmine have
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>>  >>> let
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow them down. Together they have teamed to
> >complete grad
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> school, >>>  >>> run a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> center for people with disabilities, created a
> >support group,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>  >>> all
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> while
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> balancing life at home with their 2 boys (one of
> >whom is >>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hearing
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> impaired).
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite having lost their sight after their
> >sons, Jasison and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jahzion
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> born, Andre and Jasmine have rallied back and
> >have embraced
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reality.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> While they continue to empower their community,
> >the family
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> has >>>  >>> hit >>> a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rough
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> patch. Their home is falling apart around them
> >and it has >>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> become
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> complicated
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and hazardous for them to live in especially in
> >the face of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> how >>>  >>>  >>> their
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue to grow.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On September 29th the Andersons will have some
>changes in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sight >>>  >>>  >>> when >>> Ty
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pennington, designers Michael Maloney, Tracy
>Huston, and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xzibit >>>  >>>  >>> >>> deliver a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Smart House" in just 7 days. Local builders
> >Marous Brothers
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Construction
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and community volunteers will rebuild the
> >structure and give
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them >>>  >>> the >>> key
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> live above and beyond their wildest dreams.
>The Andersons
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>  >>>  >>> >>> vacation
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crested Butte, Colorado.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> About "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition"
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Emmy-award winning reality program
>"Extreme Makeover:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Home >>>  >>>  >>> >>> Edition,"
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in its 8th season, is produced by Endemol USA, a
> >division of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Endemol
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holding. It's executive-produced Brady Connell
> >and George >>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Verschoor.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goldberg is Chairman, Endemol North America. The
> >show airs
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sundays >>>  >>> from
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8:00-9:00 p.m., ET on ABC.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> About the Media Access Group at WGBH
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Media Access Group at WGBH, which includes a
> >Services >>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> division >>>  >>> and a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> research and development division--the Carl and
> >Ruth Shapiro
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Family
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> National
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Center for Accessible Media--has pioneered and
> >delivered >>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> captioned >>>  >>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> described media for nearly four decades to
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> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homes,
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> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Access >>>  >>>  >>> Group
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> continues to develop new solutions to access
> >challenges as
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technology,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the way we all consume media, evolve. Members of
> >the group's
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collective
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> staff represent the leading experts in their
> >fields and their
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> success >>> is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> exemplified by a history of accomplishments and
> >continuous
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> growth, >>>  >>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> integration of innovative products and services
> >into society
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>  >>>  >>> >>> large,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the enthusiastic support of the audiences
> >served, including
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 36 >>>  >>>  >>> >>> million
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who are deaf, hard of hearing, blind or have low
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> vision. >>>  >>>  >>> More
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> information about the Media Access Group at WGBH
> >can be found
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://access.wgbh.org.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Contact:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mary Watkins
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mary_watkins at wgbh.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 617 300-3700
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> RyanO
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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