[nfb-talk] Training

Judy Jones jtj1 at cableone.net
Sat Dec 4 22:18:15 UTC 2010


I understand that, but it can be done.  Those of us who have been or are 
part of a military family understand that separations like that are doable. 
Plus, when you look at the type of investment it is, can be worth it.

Judy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Constance Canode" <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
To: <jsorozco at gmail.com>; "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Training


> Good point Joe.  There are several ways of thinking about this.  My 
> husband is partially sighted and I would hate it if he went away for 9 
> months.  I understand why it is done, but it would be really hard to be 
> apart for that length of time, so your point is taken.  Happily, Rick's 
> vision is fine and he doesn't have glaucoma or anything, and I don't think 
> he would want to be away for 9 months either.  Very good point.
>
> Connie Canode
> At 10:29 AM 12/4/2010, you wrote:
>>Connie,
>>
>>I think people attending the NFB centers face similar challenges of
>>educating family members.  You raise a very good point, but the issue 
>>would
>>not be unique to local training efforts.  If anything, I wonder if it 
>>might
>>not be more difficult for people who go away for nine months, because the
>>out of sight out of mind mentality might reinforce the family's 
>>preconceived
>>notions, versus watching someone work day in and day out to learn new
>>skills.  I am not underestimating the weight of family overprotection.  It
>>took me a little while to feel comfortable about first switching to the 
>>long
>>white cane and then using it regularly in public around my friends and
>>relatives in high school, but my point wasn't so much the surrounding
>>effects of training as much as the training itself.  I hope that with as
>>many people enrolling in the rehab education programs that there will be
>>more options than the traditional training scenario.  No one can deny that
>>there is benefit to any training program, but insisting that putting one's
>>life on hold to get trained does not seem, at least to me, to be the most
>>effective marketing strategy to promote what otherwise seems like an
>>excellent training model.
>>
>>Anyway, I hope that makes sense, and thank you for indulging my views.
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>Joe
>>
>>"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
>>some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Constance Canode [mailto:satin-bear at sbcglobal.net]
>>Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:51 AM
>>To: jsorozco at gmail.com; NFB Talk Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>
>>Joe, I see your point, but there is one slight problem with
>>that.  There are unfortunately some blind people who live near or
>>with over-protective families, especially young people, and I am
>>afraid that in some instances the parents would hinder the
>>progress.  A husband or wife could do the same thing for a recently
>>blinded spouse for fear of not being needed or fear of the unknown
>>and what they do not understand.  If training is given in the
>>communities where people live, it would have to be extended to the
>>family members as well.
>>
>>Connie Canode
>>At 08:42 AM 12/4/2010, you wrote:
>> >Ray,
>> >
>> >I was squarely on your corner until you pulled out the LCB
>>card.  Let's face
>> >it, the centers can't accommodate the growing population of blind
>> >individuals.  While we should see these centers as excellent
>>resources to
>> >advance one's independence, we should not see them as a prerequisite to
>> >independence.  I'd like to see the Center staff go out and
>>educate private
>> >shops on the method of teaching woodwork to blind people rather than
>> >function as isolated beacons of hope for the masses.  And,
>>people should
>> >have the option to receive this training while living in their own
>> >communities versus stopping one's progress for nine months to
>>learn skills
>> >deemed by others to be important.  This, I think, is a big part of this
>> >concept of informed choice.
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >
>> >Joe
>> >
>> >"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up
>>their sleeves,
>> >some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> >[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
>> >Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 9:23 AM
>> >To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> >Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>> >
>> >Cindy's right Brian.  That's what I've been getting from you
>> >the whole thread.  Dude, maybe you need to go to LCB:
>> >
>> >www.lbc-ruston.com
>> >
>> >
>> >Sincerely,
>> >The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> >
>> >Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>> >
>> >Skype Name:
>> >barefootedray
>> >
>> >On Dec 4, 2010, at 8:08 AM, Cindy Handel wrote:
>> >
>> > > Brian,
>> > >
>> > > I think you're assuming that the blind guy is going at this with no
>> > > experience.  Certainly, when a blind person starts to do building or
>> > > carpentry, he/she will be slow.  But, a new craftsman who is
>> >sighted will be
>> > > slow, too.  Speed comes with experience, whether you're
>> >sighted or blind.
>> > > If you don't do this kind of work and have never tried to
>> >learn it as a
>> > > blind person, then you have no reference to understand how a
>> >blind person
>> > > can accomplish the job and compete with a sighted person,
>> >doing the same
>> > > job.  But, please don't discount the blind person, just
>> >because he's blind.
>> > >
>> > > Cindy
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
>> > > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 2:29 AM
>> > > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > hi,
>> > >
>> > > sometimes it depends on the task.
>> > > say cutting a sheet of plywood, i believe a blind guy can
>> >operate the saw
>> > > and cut the sheet but i don't believe it could be done
>> >without the start and
>> > > end point being more than 1/16th of an inch different and
>>as fast as a
>> > > sighted carpenter and that's the point people refuse to accept.
>> > > getting the job done is possible but the public doesn't
>> >tolerate time lags
>> > > taken by the blind cohart.
>> > > now days, air compressors run nail guns and you only get one
>> >pop. is the
>> > > blind guy going to knowwhen the nail goes into the sheet and
>> >misses the stud
>> > > with all the noise?
>> > > how happy is the boss going to be when you just blew 10
>> >minutes doing a line
>> > > of nails and you were not hitting the stud?
>> > >
>> > > Bryan Schulz
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>> > > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 12:12 AM
>> > > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> In an attempt to keep on topic, let me remind you that
>> >sighted folks don't
>> > >> hit the mail on the head every time.  They mash their
>> >fingers too.  YOu
>> > >> think they don't have accidents?  Well, guess what, they do.
>> >  I'm trying
>> > >> real hard not to make assumptions about you or your level of
>> >independance,
>> > >> but, I'd just like to put one question to you sir.  Do you
>> >not believe in
>> > >> your heart of hearts that the blind can really do these
>> >things?  Seems to
>> > >> me we cannot have a very meaningful discussion until we
>> >address that one.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Sincerely,
>> > >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> > >>
>> > >> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>> > >>
>> > >> Skype Name:
>> > >> barefootedray
>> > >>
>> > >> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:50 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> hi,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> i'm not taking it personal.
>> > >>> what irks me is that blind people get pissed if they are
>> >told they can't
>> > >>> do something and take it as because you are blind and
>>don't stop to
>> > >>> consider what is reality or what makes sense.
>> > >>> of course a blind person can swing a hammer or use a power
>> >saw but are
>> > >>> they going to be able to hold a board with one handand hit
>> >the nail dead
>> > >>> center every swing or cutthe the line exactly while keeping
>> >a half sheet
>> > >>> of plywood from falling with the other hand and the point
>>that blind
>> > >>> people fail to accept is will those or other tasks even
>> >come close to the
>> > >>> speed of a sighted carpenter?
>> > >>> are people really going to demand that the entire crew
>> >should be blind?
>> > >>> do you really think that a sighted crew would allow a blind
>> >guy to be up
>> > >>> on the roof slinging the plywood?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Bryan Schulz
>> > >>>
>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr"
>><rforetjr at att.net>
>> > >>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > >>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 11:36 PM
>> > >>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Hey, it aint personal.  How come you gotta take it
>> >personally?  What's
>> > >>>> the matter?  Can't stand truly independant blind people?
>> >I see it all
>> > >>>> the time.  The dependant blind call the independant blind "super
>> > >>>> blinks". Why?  Well, my own idea about that is that they
>> >are jealous of
>> > >>>> what we have and are; but, instead of bettering
>> >themselves, they get
>> > >>>> mad.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> tisk tisk tisk.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Sincerely,
>> > >>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Skype Name:
>> > >>>> barefootedray
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:13 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> put up some $$ cuz they say bs walks!
>> > >>>>> i'm tired of people talking smack and telling other
>> >people they are
>> > >>>>> full of sh$$ about various topics.
>> > >>>>> i have been going to professional nhra drag races for 20
>> >years and the
>> > >>>>> teams do rebuild an alcohol or nitro motor in about 30
>> >minutes after
>> > >>>>> each run.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Jay Blake owns the follow a dream alcohol funny car and he is
>> > >>>>> completely capable of working on the motor but not at the
>> >same pace as
>> > >>>>> sighted mechanics on race day and has the sense to accept
>> >that instead
>> > >>>>> of being a weak link.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Bryan Schulz
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr"
>> ><rforetjr at att.net>
>> > >>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > >>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:34 PM
>> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Got news for you bro.  There's no way it takes just
>> >thirty minutes.
>> > >>>>>> You've heard of editing right?
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Sincerely,
>> > >>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Skype Name:
>> > >>>>>> barefootedray
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 10:29 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> don't play the pity card bro!
>> > >>>>>>> i'm just telling people what happens in the real world
>> >outside of the
>> > >>>>>>> nfb bubble.
>> > >>>>>>> did you understand it's the pace and not the ability?
>> > >>>>>>> the man's race team completely rebuilds a  motor in
>>30 minutes.
>> > >>>>>>> i would love to see the blind man actually spinning the
>> >air gun and
>> > >>>>>>> working on the motor on race day but he has realized
>> >that the team
>> > >>>>>>> has more success when he stays out of the way and let
>> >his employees
>> > >>>>>>> perform the rebuild.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr"
>> ><rforetjr at att.net>
>> > >>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:11 PM
>> > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> And what would you propose?  Leaving things the way
>> >they are?  Don't
>> > >>>>>>>> you think there are any blind people actually involved in the
>> > >>>>>>>> building of their own homes?  Could it be that you
>> >don't think we do
>> > >>>>>>>> much of anything? Oh, of course.  Sit in rocking
>> >chairs and listen
>> > >>>>>>>> to our state provided reading radio service.  Yeah,
>> >that's the life
>> > >>>>>>>> for sure.
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>> > >>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Skype Name:
>> > >>>>>>>> barefootedray
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> wishful thinking...
>> > >>>>>>>>> people here have no clue what happens in the one week build.
>> > >>>>>>>>> a relative worked on one and there were all kind of
>> >worksmanship
>> > >>>>>>>>> f-ups and people running everywhere.
>> > >>>>>>>>> you really think a blind guy is going to carry sheets
>> >of drywall
>> > >>>>>>>>> with material and tools all over the site without falling?
>> > >>>>>>>>> you don't get the pace.  just like there is a blind
>> >guy who owns a
>> > >>>>>>>>> racing team but doesn't do the actual repair during
>> >race day due to
>> > >>>>>>>>> the time limits.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Constance Canode"
>> > >>>>>>>>> <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
>> > >>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 7:43 PM
>> > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Ray, that is an absolutely awesome idea.  Now if we
>> >can implement
>> > >>>>>>>>>> it, people would certainly get a different
>> >perspective on what
>> > >>>>>>>>>> blind people are really like.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Connie Canode
>> > >>>>>>>>>> At 11:43 AM 12/3/2010, you wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> YOu know Peter, I was just kind of thinking.  I
>> >know of only one
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> way to stop this.  What we need to do is get some
>> >independent and
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> competent blind people on the make over crew.  Once
>> >we do that,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> maybe they'll get the idea.  Barring that, maybe we
>> >ought to have
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> some competent blind people at least helping out on
>> >a make-over
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> project; since I'm sure they wouldn't let us
>> >officially be part
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> of what I presume bills itself as a professional
>> >make-over crew.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Skype Name:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> barefootedray
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Peter Donahue wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello John and everyone,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>   If you take the time to read the message I sent
>> >concerning
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> an
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> experience
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we had when looking for an apartment last spring you'd
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> understand >  > why >  > the
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> red flags are flying. If Extreme Make-Over Home Edition
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> continues
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to portray
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> us as helpless unable to live on our own without major
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> modifications to the
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> home environment or a presumed dependency on a
>> >million gadgets
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incidents
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> like the one I described in my message earlier
>>this morning
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> will
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> continue to
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> happen to blind people seeking housing. While we
>> >can't prove
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> that >  > the
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> manager at that apartment complex was influenced
>> >by an episode
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> this show
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> where a blind person or a couple were featured if this TV
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> network
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> continues
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to cast us as unable to manage our own home
>> >they'll certainly
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> be
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> suspect in
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> my book.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Peter Donahue
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From: "John Heim" <john at johnheim.net>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 9:40 AM
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I'd presume because you don't make a lot of
>> >money as a >
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> disability
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> advocate.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 8:40 PM
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I feel the same way.  First question that came to
>> >find...If >>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> these >>  >> >> people
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> so fantastic and can motivate everyone to get
>> >past their >> >>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disabilities, >> and
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> they have learned so much in the four years they've been
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> blind, >>  >> why >>  >> can't
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> they maintain their house so it isn't falling
>>down around
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> them?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:16 PM
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I hate to be this way, but, how come I'm already
>> >skepticle? >>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone >>  >> care
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> guess why?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype Name:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> barefootedray
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 2, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Ryan O wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Q From: Mary Watkins
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: MAG_News at mail4.wgbh.org
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 1:06 PM
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages
>>Tuning into
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ABC'S >>>  >>>  >>> >>> "Extreme
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Makeover: Home Edition" on Sunday, December 5
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning into ABC'S
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Extreme >>>  >>>  >>> >>> Makeover:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Home Edition"
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Sunday, December 5 (8-9pm, EST)
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Media Access Group at WGBH encourages all those
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested >>> in
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> inclusive
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> technology for people who are blind or have
>>low vision to
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tune >>>  >>> into
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Extreme
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Makeover: Home Edition" this Sunday evening,
>>December 5.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> While >>> we >>>  >>>  >>> can't
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide any specific information on what will
>>be seen and
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> heard >>>  >>> (it >>>  >>> would
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spoil the surprise!), the episode promises to
>> >create much >>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> greater
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> awareness
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the services and products now available for
>>people who
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>  >>>  >>> >>> limited or
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sight.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the information the production company
>> >has released
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>  >>>  >>> >>> advance
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this episode:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" team has
>> >selected the
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anderson
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Family
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in Cleveland, Ohio. The family of four answered
>> >the call to
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action >>>  >>> when
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> inspired the community to heighten their
>> >awareness of the >>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obstacles
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> facing
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the disabled in their community. Diving headlong
>> >into their
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work, >>>  >>>  >>> Andre
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jasmine have dedicated their time to supporting and
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> counseling >>>  >>> the
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> disabled
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by connecting them with resources to help them
>> >live and lead
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent lives. The Andersons have proven to
>> >be the >>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitive >>>  >>>  >>> role
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> models as they themselves lost their sight 4 years ago.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Empowered by their own obstacles, Andre and
>>Jasmine have
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>>  >>> let
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow them down. Together they have teamed to
>> >complete grad
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> school, >>>  >>> run a
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> center for people with disabilities, created a
>> >support group,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>  >>> all
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> while
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> balancing life at home with their 2 boys (one of
>> >whom is >>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hearing
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> impaired).
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite having lost their sight after their
>> >sons, Jasison and
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jahzion
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> born, Andre and Jasmine have rallied back and
>> >have embraced
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reality.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> While they continue to empower their community,
>> >the family
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> has >>>  >>> hit >>> a
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rough
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> patch. Their home is falling apart around them
>> >and it has >>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> become
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> complicated
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and hazardous for them to live in especially in
>> >the face of
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> how >>>  >>>  >>> their
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue to grow.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On September 29th the Andersons will have some
>>changes in
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sight >>>  >>>  >>> when >>> Ty
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pennington, designers Michael Maloney, Tracy
>>Huston, and
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xzibit >>>  >>>  >>> >>> deliver a
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Smart House" in just 7 days. Local builders
>> >Marous Brothers
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Construction
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and community volunteers will rebuild the
>> >structure and give
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them >>>  >>> the >>> key
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> live above and beyond their wildest dreams.
>>The Andersons
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>  >>>  >>> >>> vacation
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crested Butte, Colorado.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> About "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition"
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>>"Extreme Makeover:
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>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Endemol
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>> >and George >>>
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>> >Services >>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> division >>>  >>> and a
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> research and development division--the Carl and
>> >Ruth Shapiro
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Family
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> National
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Center for Accessible Media--has pioneered and
>> >delivered >>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> captioned >>>  >>> and
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> described media for nearly four decades to
>> >people in their
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homes,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> classrooms, at work and in the community. And the Media
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Access >>>  >>>  >>> Group
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> continues to develop new solutions to access
>> >challenges as
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technology,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the way we all consume media, evolve. Members of
>> >the group's
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collective
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> staff represent the leading experts in their
>> >fields and their
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> success >>> is
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> exemplified by a history of accomplishments and
>> >continuous
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> growth, >>>  >>> the
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> integration of innovative products and services
>> >into society
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>  >>>  >>> >>> large,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the enthusiastic support of the audiences
>> >served, including
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 36 >>>  >>>  >>> >>> million
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who are deaf, hard of hearing, blind or have low
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> vision. >>>  >>>  >>> More
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> information about the Media Access Group at WGBH
>> >can be found
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://access.wgbh.org.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Contact:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mary Watkins
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mary_watkins at wgbh.org
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 617 300-3700
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> RyanO
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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