[nfb-talk] [NFB-talk] Here We Go Again: Home Makeover-blindcouple in OH

Constance Canode satin-bear at sbcglobal.net
Mon Dec 6 23:19:23 UTC 2010


So do I, Cindy.  Sometimes cold weather makes them go crazy.

Connie
At 05:06 PM 12/6/2010, you wrote:
>Yes, I ignore audible walk signals.  I rely on the traffic.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John Heim" <john at johnheim.net>
>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 5:28 PM
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [NFB-talk] Here We Go Again: Home
>Makeover-blindcouple in OH
>
>
>Cindy, think about what you're saying. You ignore audible walk signals? Do
>you realize how dangerous that is? What would you think of someone who said
>they ignore visible walk signals?  You know that's illegal, right? Do you
>know why its illegal? Because its dangerous!
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 3:38 PM
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [NFB-talk] Here We Go Again: Home
>Makeover-blindcouple in OH
>
>
> >I don't think Connie, (or her experiences with audible traffic signals) is
> > unusual.  I haven't encountered them frequently.  But, I dislike them,
> > when
> > I have.  I try my best to ignore them.  But, if they're loud, it's hard to
> > do.
> >
> > Cindy
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Heim" <john at johnheim.net>
> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 3:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [NFB-talk] Here We Go Again: Home
> > Makeover-blindcouple in OH
> >
> >
> > Well, you are unusual.
> >
> > You don't have to take my word for it, of course.  The Access Board web
> > site
> > has quite a bit of information on the research on audible walk signals.
> > Audible walk signals make blind people safer. That is not debatable.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Constance Canode" <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 2:09 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [NFB-talk] Here We Go Again: Home
> > Makeover-blindcouple in OH
> >
> >
> >> As a good cane traveler and experienced in travel all over the country, I
> >> find the audible signals distracting when you are trying to listen to
> >> traffic, especially if the are louder than the norm.
> >>
> >> Connie Canode
> >> At 01:58 PM 12/6/2010, you wrote:
> >>>Yeah, a driver can still make a mistake and the audible signal won't
> >>>protect you. But audible walk signals aren't to keep drivers from making
> >>>mistakes. They're to keep blind people from making mistakes. And they're
> >>>really good for that.
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
> >>>To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:51 PM
> >>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [NFB-talk] Here We Go Again: Home
> >>>Makeover-blindcouple in OH
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>If there's a light, it's not difficult.  A car is just as likely to hit
> >>>>you
> >>>>in a lighted intersection with or without an audible signal.  If the
> >>>>crossing is done without stop signs or some other type of traffic
> >>>>control,
> >>>>then I agree something is required, but I think audible signals should
> >>>>be
> >>>>enhancers if used, not requirements.
> >>>>
> >>>>Joe
> >>>>
> >>>>"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their
> >>>>sleeves,
> >>>>some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: John Heim [mailto:john at johnheim.net]
> >>>>Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 1:32 PM
> >>>>To: jsorozco at gmail.com; NFB Talk Mailing List
> >>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [NFB-talk] Here We Go Again: Home
> >>>>Makeover -blindcouple in OH
> >>>>
> >>>>She didn't say it was too much of a challenge to cross the street. She
> >>>>demonstrated how difficult it is.  Sometimes, it is difficult.
> >>>>There are
> >>>>intersections where having an accessible pedestrian signal makes it way
> >>>>easier and way safer for a blind person to cross. Its impossible to say
> >>>>whether an accessible pedestrian signal was really necessary on
> >>>>that corner
> >>>>but I see no reason to doubt it. I say when in doubt, put the signal in.
> >>>>
> >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
> >>>>To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 11:18 AM
> >>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [NFB-talk] Here We Go Again: Home
> >>>>Makeover -blindcouple in OH
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>You know, if they were willing to give me all them there
> >>>>gifts, I'll be
> >>>>>glad
> >>>>>to accept them and simultaneously correct their misconceptions of
> >>>>>blindness.
> >>>>>A win/win!  LOL  I'm just curious to hear what it is they
> >>>>counsel people
> >>>>>about empowerment if the street intersection is too much of a
> >>>>challenge?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Joe
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up
> >>>>their sleeves,
> >>>>>some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
> >>>>>
> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >>>>>[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rovig, Lorraine
> >>>>>Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:02 PM
> >>>>>To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> >>>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [NFB-talk] Here We Go Again: Home
> >>>>>Makeover - blindcouple in OH
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Here We Go Again: Home Makeover Extreme Edition - blind couple in OH
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Well, I watched it. It was pretty bad and it could have been worse. It
> >>>>>could have been a lot better too.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Their original bathroom -- a sink fell off the wall once when Jasmine
> >>>>>washed her hands so they had no bathroom sink; the old toilet would
> >>>>>swivel left and right about 20 degrees either way if your toe
> >>>>pushed it.
> >>>>>Other parts of the old home and front porch were dangerous.
> >>>>The part of
> >>>>>the old house facing the street appeared to be two-rooms wide, small
> >>>>>rooms, and I do not remember if it was two-story.  They were given a
> >>>>>two-story, large, modern home with all new appliances in the kitchen,
> >>>>>laundry room, every other room, and etcetera.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>This is an African-American family, the Andersons of Maple
> >>>>Heights, Ohio
> >>>>>(near Cleveland). I do not know if either one has a job; both
> >>>>appear to
> >>>>>be in their early 40s.  The mother, Jasmine, states she is visually
> >>>>>impaired. She uses a folding cane with a fat white tip that I
> >>>>think is a
> >>>>>marshmallow tip.  Husband, Andre, pronounced the French way,
> >>>>is totally
> >>>>>blind and uses a guide dog named Valentine. The show gave the dog a
> >>>>>heart-shaped bed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Jasmine gave a tiny monologue stating she lost enough sight to be
> >>>>>visually impaired and was depressed for awhile but then she became
> >>>>>"courageous" like she is now. They never charge for their [untrained]
> >>>>>counseling and encouragement of other people with disabilities. They
> >>>>>give lots of speeches to educate the community how to make life easier
> >>>>>for blind people and people with other disabilities.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The couple told us they are in danger every time they cross a
> >>>>street and
> >>>>>the camera mike was held close to trucks and cars as vehicles
> >>>>zoomed by
> >>>>>on a city street. Jasmine said she was hit in the shoulder by a moving
> >>>>>car one time. Ty Pennington, the shows' big-hearted hero,
> >>>>>furniture-designer and designer of his own line of linens and other
> >>>>>goods for the home, excellent carpenter and TV show leader, went on
> >>>>>about how dangerous it is for blind people every day when they are
> >>>>>outside the home. He got installed for the Andersons a fancy talking
> >>>>>device at the single crossing nearest to their home at their bus stop.
> >>>>>Jasmine told us "we're not the only blind people living here,
> >>>>you know"
> >>>>>and, she said, this will help people with other disabilities that live
> >>>>>in their neighborhood too.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The show gave her a CCTV rigged to a lady's dressing table so she can
> >>>>>see to put on her make-up and not have to ask her son if she did it
> >>>>>okay. She got choked up that she can see her nails now and can paint
> >>>>>them as she could not see to do before, and for the first time she
> >>>>>exclaims, as we watch her look at it, she can see the
> >>>>beautiful ring her
> >>>>>husband gave her.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>In the old house, Jasmine shoved up the sleeves on her dress
> >>>>to show Ty
> >>>>>and us the many burns on her arms that she got from using her
> >>>>>conventional electric 4-burner stove and oven.  The show gave her
> >>>>>"induction heating" which does not give out any heat except to a metal
> >>>>>pot placed on the burner, and she got a wall oven so her oven is at a
> >>>>>better height for her to use. The house got a talking
> >>>>temperature gauge.
> >>>>>On the plus side, so the two wouldn't get lost, nothing odd was built
> >>>>>into the kitchen or the walls and floors.  Also on the plus
> >>>>side, except
> >>>>>for the induction oven, normal if fancy Sears's appliances were placed
> >>>>>in the home for the kitchen and the baths.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Both Andre and Jasmine got computers that I think had JAWS
> >>>>installed on
> >>>>>them. They got a home theatre room with one "Sound Dome" over
> >>>>both their
> >>>>>heads that directs the sound directly only to them, and lets them hear
> >>>>>the SAP channel along with the show. They have two very helpful,
> >>>>>respectful sons (one may be age 12 and the other is a young teenager).
> >>>>>Ty stated the older son got a vacation from verbalizing what is on
> >>>>>screen plus he got the SAP thing with words running below the screen
> >>>>>when folks talked (which he needed but I missed the part that said why
> >>>>>he did). The younger son is sure he wants to grow up to be an
> >>>>eye doctor
> >>>>>so he can cure blindness, beginning with his mother's visual
> >>>>impairment.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Both Jasmine and Andre got brand new, fat-bodied, folding canes that
> >>>>>have built-in sensors to inform them of obstacles by their head and at
> >>>>>their feet, and, said Ty, "these aren't even on the market yet." Andre
> >>>>>expressed their gratitude.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>They got a huge main room that runs from a living room
> >>>>grouping through
> >>>>>an empty space of floor to a dining room grouping to a kitchen with no
> >>>>>barriers or changes in floor, so they do not have to worry
> >>>>anymore about
> >>>>>running into posts or walls, as they did run into in their cramped
> >>>>>original home.  I noticed they are both bulky overweight
> >>>>people and the
> >>>>>original house doorways were older and appeared smallish, plus a post
> >>>>>was inconveniently placed, especially for any overweight people trying
> >>>>>to get past it to the bedrooms and bathroom.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The mortgage company paid off and tore up their mortgage; the local
> >>>>>branch of the state college gave them 2 college scholarships for the
> >>>>>boys; Sears gave the four of them enough clothes and shoes to
> >>>>fill some
> >>>>>of their new closets; the local basketball team called The Cavaliers,
> >>>>>gave the teen-aged son a closet-full of their clothes plus
> >>>>3-shelves of
> >>>>>their basketballs with its metal rack. The building company gave them
> >>>>>$50,000 to a fund to handle their home maintenance.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Braille got a "shout out" as the modern lingo has it. Ty
> >>>>added palm-size
> >>>>>wooden "dots" to their bed's headboard to spell out in grade
> >>>>one, "Love
> >>>>>is Blind."  Large print got a "shout out" too, with their top
> >>>>bed quilt
> >>>>>decorated with "Love is Blind" sewn on as stuffed, raised-up
> >>>>>hand-writing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>(For me, I keep wondering how they and other Ty Pennington-show
> >>>>>homeowners can afford their new taxes on their giant gifts of money,
> >>>>>goods, and a huge new home.)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The Andersons were so very grateful for all they received from Ty and
> >>>>>Sears Company and ABC. Tears all around.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>You can view the entire episode on the Anderson Family via computer,
> >>>>>here:
> >>>>>http://abc.go.com/shows/extreme-makeover-home-edition
> >>>>>Anderson Family
> >>>>>  | Full Episode
> >>>>>A visually impaired couple devoted to helping the community receives a
> >>>>>home makeover, complete with technologies that help people with
> >>>>>disabilities;
> >>>>>EXTREME MAKEOVER: HOME EDITION - "Anderson Family" - Andre and Jasmine
> >>>>>Anderson have never allowed their visual impairment to slow them down,
> >>>>>but rather have faced it head on, and established the Disability
> >>>>>Awareness Center in Maple Heights, Ohio, to help others who are
> >>>>>struggling with sight loss. The couple and their sons learned
> >>>>they would
> >>>>>be recipients of a home makeover while aboard the public bus that they
> >>>>>ride every day. The "EM: HE" team surprised them on the bus
> >>>>and revealed
> >>>>>plans to give them a new "smart" home, equipped with technologies that
> >>>>>support people with disabilities. This episode of "Extreme Makeover:
> >>>>>Home Edition" airs SUNDAY, DECEMBER 5 (8:00-9:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC
> >>>>>Television Network. (ABC/MIKE CROUCH) ANDERSON FAMILY HOME - AFTER -
> >>>>>BEDROOM
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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