[nfb-talk] off list

[John G. Heim]

Ray, this is off-list. I'm not really an appropriate subject for the 
nfb-talk list, after all.

Can you give me an example of me insulting someone? Because I really don't 
think I have.

I can give you an example of someone insulting me. ----- Original 
Message ----- 
From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [john at johnheim.com: unethical personal attacks]


> Let me answer this.  the list archive, (should you bother to look at it), 
> is just chucked full of your constant hatred of us.  John, if you hate us 
> so much, why do you bother sticking around and insulting us?  Wait.  I 
> think I can guess.  You do so because you have no life otherwise.  Such a 
> small mind.  Tisk tisk tisk.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!!!
>
> Now a proud Mac user!!!!!
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> On May 27, 2010, at 6:49 PM, John G. Heim wrote:
>
>> Joseph, if you're going to accuse me of misrepresenting the NFB position, 
>> its only fair that I should get to ask you what you mean by that. Won't 
>> you just explain exactly what I said that misrepresents the NFB position? 
>> All I can remember saying is that the NFB organized protests against 
>> audible signals in 2003. But that is true.
>>
>> We are both equally guilty of being unwilling to admit we're wrong. So 
>> that doesn't mean anything. You're not willing to admit to the validity 
>> of anything I've said, are you? It certainly seems somewhat hypocritical 
>> of you to criticize me for never admitting I'm wrong when you've never 
>> done that either. At least I'm willing to listen to your point of view.
>>
>> PS: I didn't threaten you. I have no ability to harm you in any way 
>> therefore I can't threaten you. It wouldn't hurt you to stop insulting me 
>> so thats not a threat.
>> .
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "T. Joseph Carter" 
>> <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
>> To: <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:29 PM
>> Subject: [nfb-talk] [john at johnheim.com: unethical personal attacks]
>>
>>
>>> I do not take kindly to threats.  I take less kindly to them from 
>>> useless trolls looking to cause problems on NFB lists.  David can remove 
>>> me from the list if he must, but it's about time someone stood up to 
>>> your whining little anti-NFB rants cluttering up our mailing list.  For 
>>> my part you need to either learn what the NFB's position on issues 
>>> actually is, or stop claiming that you know what it is.
>>>
>>> This is something you have established over the course of several YEARS 
>>> now that you are unwilling or unable to do.  Not once have I ever seen 
>>> you accept another's view differing from your own as even valid, much 
>>> less correct.  That means your messages take the form of 
>>> anti-Federationist rants and whining about how YOU are so abused by the 
>>> rest of us.
>>>
>>> Take it somewhere else, I say.  We are sick of it here.
>>>
>>> With no more respect than you have earned from me,
>>>
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Forwarded message from "John G. Heim" <john at johnheim.com> -----
>>>
>>> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 13:35:51 -0500
>>> From: "John G. Heim" <john at johnheim.com>
>>> To: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: unethical personal attacks
>>> Message-ID: <BDBED14451F24750AEF895438889B66F at math.wisc.edu>
>>>
>>> TIC,
>>> Would you please stop the personal attacks directed toward me on the 
>>> nfb-talk list? It is highly unethical for you to keep attacking me while 
>>> at the same time absolutely refusing to listen to my defense. I'd prefer 
>>> you'd stop attacking me but if you feel you must, you should at least 
>>> have the courtesy to listen to my defense.  If you don't either stop 
>>> attacking me or take me out of your mail filter, I'm going to have to 
>>> ask the moderator to intervene.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- End forwarded message -----
>>>
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