[nfb-talk] off list

[John G. Heim]

Darn! Obviously, that was not intended for this list.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John G. Heim" <jheim at math.wisc.edu>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 8:11 PM
Subject: [nfb-talk] off list


> Ray, this is off-list. I'm not really an appropriate subject for the 
> nfb-talk list, after all.
>
> Can you give me an example of me insulting someone? Because I really don't 
> think I have.
>
> I can give you an example of someone insulting me. ----- Original 
> Message ----- 
> From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 7:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [john at johnheim.com: unethical personal attacks]
>
>
>> Let me answer this.  the list archive, (should you bother to look at it), 
>> is just chucked full of your constant hatred of us.  John, if you hate us 
>> so much, why do you bother sticking around and insulting us?  Wait.  I 
>> think I can guess.  You do so because you have no life otherwise.  Such a 
>> small mind.  Tisk tisk tisk.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!!!
>>
>> Now a proud Mac user!!!!!
>>
>> e-mail:
>> rforetjr at comcast dot net
>> skype:
>> barefootedray
>>
>> On May 27, 2010, at 6:49 PM, John G. Heim wrote:
>>
>>> Joseph, if you're going to accuse me of misrepresenting the NFB 
>>> position, its only fair that I should get to ask you what you mean by 
>>> that. Won't you just explain exactly what I said that misrepresents the 
>>> NFB position? All I can remember saying is that the NFB organized 
>>> protests against audible signals in 2003. But that is true.
>>>
>>> We are both equally guilty of being unwilling to admit we're wrong. So 
>>> that doesn't mean anything. You're not willing to admit to the validity 
>>> of anything I've said, are you? It certainly seems somewhat hypocritical 
>>> of you to criticize me for never admitting I'm wrong when you've never 
>>> done that either. At least I'm willing to listen to your point of view.
>>>
>>> PS: I didn't threaten you. I have no ability to harm you in any way 
>>> therefore I can't threaten you. It wouldn't hurt you to stop insulting 
>>> me so thats not a threat.
>>> .
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "T. Joseph Carter" 
>>> <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
>>> To: <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:29 PM
>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] [john at johnheim.com: unethical personal attacks]
>>>
>>>
>>>> I do not take kindly to threats.  I take less kindly to them from 
>>>> useless trolls looking to cause problems on NFB lists.  David can 
>>>> remove me from the list if he must, but it's about time someone stood 
>>>> up to your whining little anti-NFB rants cluttering up our mailing 
>>>> list.  For my part you need to either learn what the NFB's position on 
>>>> issues actually is, or stop claiming that you know what it is.
>>>>
>>>> This is something you have established over the course of several YEARS 
>>>> now that you are unwilling or unable to do.  Not once have I ever seen 
>>>> you accept another's view differing from your own as even valid, much 
>>>> less correct.  That means your messages take the form of 
>>>> anti-Federationist rants and whining about how YOU are so abused by the 
>>>> rest of us.
>>>>
>>>> Take it somewhere else, I say.  We are sick of it here.
>>>>
>>>> With no more respect than you have earned from me,
>>>>
>>>> Joseph
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Forwarded message from "John G. Heim" <john at johnheim.com> -----
>>>>
>>>> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 13:35:51 -0500
>>>> From: "John G. Heim" <john at johnheim.com>
>>>> To: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: unethical personal attacks
>>>> Message-ID: <BDBED14451F24750AEF895438889B66F at math.wisc.edu>
>>>>
>>>> TIC,
>>>> Would you please stop the personal attacks directed toward me on the 
>>>> nfb-talk list? It is highly unethical for you to keep attacking me 
>>>> while at the same time absolutely refusing to listen to my defense. I'd 
>>>> prefer you'd stop attacking me but if you feel you must, you should at 
>>>> least have the courtesy to listen to my defense.  If you don't either 
>>>> stop attacking me or take me out of your mail filter, I'm going to have 
>>>> to ask the moderator to intervene.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- End forwarded message -----
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