[nfb-talk] List Behavior

Tue Apr 26 21:26:09 UTC 2011

Is this a case of me-too-itis?

Mike Freeman
sent from my iPhone

On Apr 26, 2011, at 13:59, "Gloria Whipple" <ladygloria at webband.com> wrote:

> Amen!
> 
> 
> Gloria Whipple
> Corresponding Secretary
> Inland Empire chapter
> nfb of WA
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Constance Canode
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 13:44
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] List Behavior
> 
> Thank you, Dave.  Thank you a hundred times.
> At 04:20 AM 4/26/2011, you wrote:
>> John:
>> 
>> As Moderator, and List Owner, the time has come where I feel that I 
>> must do something about what is happening on nfb-talk, once 
>> again.  No matter what I do, some people will be unhappy, I do to 
>> much, or I don't do enough, or I am practicing censorship, or I am 
>> dancing to Baltimore's drum.  So be it!  People will think what they think.
>> 
>> I agree that you haven't always been fairly treated here, some 
>> people have attacked you personally, even recently, and this is 
>> wrong.  I have previously pointed this out, and have been accused of 
>> favoring non-Federationists.  I am just trying to be fair to 
>> everybody, and personal attacks are not appropriate behavior on this 
>> list, and need to be stopped.
>> 
>> On the other hand, you are like a person of one political 
>> persuasion, pick democrat or republican, it doesn't matter, and you 
>> keep going to meetings of the other party.  There you loudly tell 
>> them they are all wrong and why you think so.  They of course don't 
>> like that and verbally tell you so, maybe even going overboard a 
>> little.  You leave and come back, and do it again, leave, and come 
>> back, and do it again, and complain about how you are treated while 
>> you are there.
>> 
>> I have tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, but i can see a 
>> pattern.  You seem to be obsessed with identifiable money, audible 
>> pedestrian signals, and descriptive video.  No matter what we are 
>> talking about you bring up these things time and time again.  On 
>> December 13 you said you were leaving the list for 3 months ..... I 
>> will paste in the text below.
>> 
>> You do leave and come back, and within two weeks the list is as 
>> chaotic as it has ever been.  We were talking about the Foundation 
>> Fighting Blindness, dining in the dark etc., and once again you have 
>> to push the buttons of identifiable money, audio pedestrian signals, 
>> and descriptive video.
>> 
>> As moderator I am drawing a line in the sand and saying to you, once 
>> and for all, it has to stop.  You are not changing anybody's mind, 
>> and we obviously are not changing yours.  It has all been said 
>> previously, time and time again, and is doing no one any good.
>> 
>> The above subjects are off topic for you, and if you can't discuss 
>> something and move on, I will permanently ban you from the list.  I 
>> do not want to do so, but this all is totally unproductive for everybody.
>> 
>> Here is what you said on December 13.  I don't know if you are 
>> obsessed with the three topics, or you are so sure you are right ... 
>> or what.  We have been repeating this pattern for a couple years 
>> now, and it needs to stop once and for all.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Okay, so as a show of good faith I'm putting myself on hiatus for a month.
>> No, 3 months. (Do I hear 6?) So I won't post here until mid-March. Heck
> lets
>> just say April 1. I won't post here again until April Fools Day as a sign
> of
>> good faith.
>> 
>> I don't expect anyone to take it as proof but I'm just trying to show that
> I
>> don't intend to make people angry. Its just that I think these issues are
>> important and I believe I've made an extremely strong case for each of my
>> opinions. I hope people will take this gesture in the spirit in which it is
>> given. I don't want to be a pest. I can't help it. So Merry Christmas!
>> 
>> Anyway, if anyone wants to keep debating with me via private email, just
>> take nfb-talk out of the subject. I am more than willing (eager) to
> continue
>> to discuss these issues.
>> 
>> PS: I honestly feel no animosity for anyone on this list. Seriously, I just
>> think we all just happen to disagree. That's no reason to think badly of
> the
>> other person. I mean, you folks can't help it if your opinions are so
> wrong.
>> [Its a joke.]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> David Andrews, Moderator and List Owner
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> nfb-talk mailing list
>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>> for nfb-talk:
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/satin-bear%40sbcg
> lobal.net
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nfb-talk mailing list
> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> nfb-talk:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/ladygloria%40webba
> nd.com
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nfb-talk mailing list
> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nfb-talk:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/k7uij%40panix.com