[nfb-talk] List Behavior

T. Joseph Carter carter.tjoseph at gmail.com
Wed Apr 27 03:17:23 UTC 2011


I think we're now at the point of a large collective sigh of relief.

Joseph


On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 02:26:09PM -0700, Mike Freeman wrote:
>Is this a case of me-too-itis?
>
>Mike Freeman
>sent from my iPhone
>
>
>On Apr 26, 2011, at 13:59, "Gloria Whipple" <ladygloria at webband.com> wrote:
>
>> Amen!
>>
>>
>> Gloria Whipple
>> Corresponding Secretary
>> Inland Empire chapter
>> nfb of WA
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Constance Canode
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 13:44
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] List Behavior
>>
>> Thank you, Dave.  Thank you a hundred times.
>> At 04:20 AM 4/26/2011, you wrote:
>>> John:
>>>
>>> As Moderator, and List Owner, the time has come where I feel that I
>>> must do something about what is happening on nfb-talk, once
>>> again.  No matter what I do, some people will be unhappy, I do to
>>> much, or I don't do enough, or I am practicing censorship, or I am
>>> dancing to Baltimore's drum.  So be it!  People will think what they think.
>>>
>>> I agree that you haven't always been fairly treated here, some
>>> people have attacked you personally, even recently, and this is
>>> wrong.  I have previously pointed this out, and have been accused of
>>> favoring non-Federationists.  I am just trying to be fair to
>>> everybody, and personal attacks are not appropriate behavior on this
>>> list, and need to be stopped.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, you are like a person of one political
>>> persuasion, pick democrat or republican, it doesn't matter, and you
>>> keep going to meetings of the other party.  There you loudly tell
>>> them they are all wrong and why you think so.  They of course don't
>>> like that and verbally tell you so, maybe even going overboard a
>>> little.  You leave and come back, and do it again, leave, and come
>>> back, and do it again, and complain about how you are treated while
>>> you are there.
>>>
>>> I have tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, but i can see a
>>> pattern.  You seem to be obsessed with identifiable money, audible
>>> pedestrian signals, and descriptive video.  No matter what we are
>>> talking about you bring up these things time and time again.  On
>>> December 13 you said you were leaving the list for 3 months ..... I
>>> will paste in the text below.
>>>
>>> You do leave and come back, and within two weeks the list is as
>>> chaotic as it has ever been.  We were talking about the Foundation
>>> Fighting Blindness, dining in the dark etc., and once again you have
>>> to push the buttons of identifiable money, audio pedestrian signals,
>>> and descriptive video.
>>>
>>> As moderator I am drawing a line in the sand and saying to you, once
>>> and for all, it has to stop.  You are not changing anybody's mind,
>>> and we obviously are not changing yours.  It has all been said
>>> previously, time and time again, and is doing no one any good.
>>>
>>> The above subjects are off topic for you, and if you can't discuss
>>> something and move on, I will permanently ban you from the list.  I
>>> do not want to do so, but this all is totally unproductive for everybody.
>>>
>>> Here is what you said on December 13.  I don't know if you are
>>> obsessed with the three topics, or you are so sure you are right ...
>>> or what.  We have been repeating this pattern for a couple years
>>> now, and it needs to stop once and for all.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, so as a show of good faith I'm putting myself on hiatus for a month.
>>> No, 3 months. (Do I hear 6?) So I won't post here until mid-March. Heck
>> lets
>>> just say April 1. I won't post here again until April Fools Day as a sign
>> of
>>> good faith.
>>>
>>> I don't expect anyone to take it as proof but I'm just trying to show that
>> I
>>> don't intend to make people angry. Its just that I think these issues are
>>> important and I believe I've made an extremely strong case for each of my
>>> opinions. I hope people will take this gesture in the spirit in which it is
>>> given. I don't want to be a pest. I can't help it. So Merry Christmas!
>>>
>>> Anyway, if anyone wants to keep debating with me via private email, just
>>> take nfb-talk out of the subject. I am more than willing (eager) to
>> continue
>>> to discuss these issues.
>>>
>>> PS: I honestly feel no animosity for anyone on this list. Seriously, I just
>>> think we all just happen to disagree. That's no reason to think badly of
>> the
>>> other person. I mean, you folks can't help it if your opinions are so
>> wrong.
>>> [Its a joke.]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> David Andrews, Moderator and List Owner
>>>
>>>
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