[nfb-talk] Convention
T. Joseph Carter
carter.tjoseph at gmail.com
Thu Aug 4 05:52:48 UTC 2011
Oh there’s a wide range of people at national convention, some of
which have absolutely no skills to speak of. It’s kind of
depressing, but at the same time it is a sign of hope to see them
there, probably many of them being introduced for the first time to
the concept that more and better are possible—even for them.
Joseph - kf7qzc
On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 10:50:25PM -0400, bookwormahb at earthlink.net wrote:
>Dave,
>Great points from personal experience! But given the philosophy of
>independence, I'm kind of surprised you've seen individuals who need
>help cutting meat. I would think those people would be embarrassed
>to be at a NFB convention with many independent blind people. I've
>certainly seen many different types of people with a wide range of
>interests at conventions. I have been to mainly state ones but one
>part of a national one. Yes there is certainly diversity.
>Ashley
>
>-----Original Message----- From: David Andrews
>Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:41 PM
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>
>John:
>
>I have been to quite a number of NFb conventions, and I will say that
>I have observed a wide range of persons and abilities. I have seen
>some great travelers, and I have seen people who bring a sighted
>parent or friend because they don't travel alone. I have seen people
>who went through buffet lines with little or no assistance, and I
>have had dinner with people who requested that the waiter or waitress
>cut their meat. I suspect that the range of people and abilities is
>much greater than you think.
>
>Dave
>
>At 04:13 PM 8/2/2011, you wrote:
>>Well, I presume you're asking how I know that those who attend the
>>conventions are the best of the best. And I'll admit its just
>>speculation. But it just stands to reason. Of course, it wouldn't
>>be a perfect correllation either. But I'm sure the majority of
>>people at the NFB conventions are those who have it together (for
>>lack of a better term).
>>
>>I once got into a debate with someone from the ACB who questioned
>>the 70% unemployment figure for blind people. He had done a survey
>>of ACB members and found that the unemployment rate was more like
>>30 - 40%. But I pointed out that ACB members probably aren't
>>average blind people. 30 - 40% of ACB members might be unemployed
>>but that doesn't mean that 30 - 40% of all blind people are
>>unemployed.
>>
>>NFB members probably aren't average either, especially those who
>>attend conventions. So you probably couldn't get an accurate
>>glimpse into the lives of the average blind person even if you
>>expanded the voting to those not attending the convention. But it
>>would help, IMO.
>
>
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