[nfb-talk] Convention

[Loren Wakefield]

I'm not surprised at all but finding those who do not cut their own meat at 
nfb conventions.  Many sighted do not cut their own these days. And cutting 
your own meat does nothing to prove you are independent.  We all have 
differing abilities.  And as long as we are calling the shots, then who is 
to say who is independent and who is not?


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> Dave,
> Great points from personal experience! But given the philosophy of 
> independence, I'm kind of surprised you've seen individuals who need help 
> cutting meat.  I would think those people would be embarrassed to be at a 
> NFB convention with many independent blind people. I've certainly seen 
> many different types of people with a wide range of interests at 
> conventions. I have been to mainly state ones but one part of a national 
> one.  Yes there is certainly diversity.
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: David Andrews
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:41 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention
>
> John:
>
> I have been to quite a number of NFb conventions, and I will say that
> I have observed a wide range of persons and abilities.  I have seen
> some great travelers, and I have seen people who bring a sighted
> parent or friend because they don't travel alone.  I have seen people
> who went through buffet lines with little or no assistance, and I
> have had dinner with people who requested that the waiter or waitress
> cut their meat.  I suspect that the range of people and abilities is
> much greater than you think.
>
> Dave
>
> At 04:13 PM 8/2/2011, you wrote:
>>Well, I presume you're asking how I know that those who attend the 
>>conventions are the best of the best. And I'll admit its just speculation. 
>>But it just stands to reason. Of course, it wouldn't be a perfect 
>>correllation either.  But I'm sure the majority of people at the NFB 
>>conventions are those who have it together (for lack of a better term).
>>
>>I once got into a debate with someone from the ACB who questioned the 70% 
>>unemployment figure for blind people. He had done  a survey of ACB members 
>>and found that the unemployment rate was more like 30 - 40%. But I pointed 
>>out that ACB members probably aren't average blind people. 30 - 40% of ACB 
>>members might be unemployed but that doesn't mean that 30 - 40% of all 
>>blind people are unemployed.
>>
>>NFB members probably aren't average either, especially those who attend 
>>conventions. So you probably couldn't get an accurate glimpse into the 
>>lives of the average blind person even if you expanded the voting to those 
>>not attending the convention. But it would help, IMO.
>
>
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