[nfb-talk] captchas: was: Re: Making Our Homes Comfortable and Accessible to Blind Folks

Sun Dec 18 12:38:55 UTC 2011

Good morning everyone,

    There are also utilities for particular Web environments which can be 
installed that eliminate the need for captchas all together. Keep in mind 
that audio captchas won't work for deaf-blind persons shutting them out of 
many Web-based applications and denying them access to particular site 
content.

Peter Donahue

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] captchas: was: Re: Making Our Homes Comfortable and 
Accessible to Blind Folks

Ray, one of my preacher friends has an accessible contact form.
He has a semple math problem for you to answer, to prove that you
aren't a spammer.
It's a very good alternative to the captchas.
I've dealt with these issues on all of the lists.
Blessings, Joshua

On 12/18/11, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
> Hate to tel you, but; so far as I am aware, Solona no longer works because
> the one person who was doing the captcha translations became ill and
> basically, shut down the service sort of quietly.  Seems he couldn't get 
> any
> other human beings to help with the captcha translations.  I guess you 
> could
> say he sort of just droped it.
>
> So far as I am aware, Webvisum is the only way for a bind person to
> translate captchas, and, it must be used with Firefox under Windows; thus,
> leaving Mac users to rely either on what ever alternative audio solution 
> any
> given web site provides or nothing at all.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
>
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>
>
>
> On Dec 18, 2011, at 5:56 AM, Joshua Lester wrote:
>
>> Hi Ashley.
>> I was offended at the language, as well.
>> I understand where he's coming from though.
>> I'm not against sighted people, but their ignorance of what we go 
>> through.
>> Ryan, as for the captchas, a friend of mine, on the NABS list told me
>> about an online service, that you could use, to read your captchas.
>> It's free, BTW.
>> www.solona.net
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 12/17/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Dave,
>>> Thanks. I was kind of offended by his message due to the langue and
>>> sarcastic attitude toward sighted people. We all have sighted friends 
>>> and
>>> family.
>>> Unless you live alone or with a blind spouse, you probably have sighted
>>> family members. Get over it; it’s a sighted, visual world and adapt to
>>> it.
>>> I'll post my ideas for a visual pleasing home soon. I have some vision 
>>> so
>>> I
>>> see the importance of visual stuff.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: David Andrews
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 11:21 PM
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Making Our Homes Comfortable and Accessible to
>>> Blind
>>> Folks
>>>
>>> Ryan:
>>>
>>> I have warned you previously about posting profane and inappropriate
>>> messages.  It doesn't seem to matter though, as you keep doing
>>> it.  Thus, I am placing you on moderated status.
>>>
>>> We all understand that it is frustrating being blind, and things
>>> aren't always easy.    This is in part why we have this
>>> list.  However, your message isn't constructive and while it may make
>>> you feel better, I doubt it helped anyone else.
>>>
>>> David Andrews, Moderator
>>>
>>> At 04:07 PM 12/17/2011, you wrote:
>>>> Jimbo:
>>>>
>>>> Next time your friends come over and bitch about the lack of light, say
>>>> something like this:
>>>>
>>>> "You know what," (insert name) "...You know what? Every freakin' day, I
>>>> get
>>>> up and move around in a sighted world. I work on a finite schedule with
>>>> the
>>>> aid of public transit because I can't drive. If the bus or train is
>>>> late...so am I. If inclement weather strikes, I don't get in my car and
>>>> turn
>>>> on the windshield wipers. I freeze my nuts off in the rain or snow 
>>>> until
>>>> I
>>>> can get on a bus. When I go shopping, I pray to God that I can land a
>>>> shopper's assistant who is, at the very least, literate. If they speak
>>>> English, it makes my day. If they speak English fluently...Jesus, I've
>>>> been
>>>> known to weep with joy. If I shop on line, I'll be lucky if capcha,
>>>> internet
>>>> graphics and flash don't give me a migraine that could floor Robin
>>>> Williams
>>>> on a coke binge!
>>>>
>>>> Sorry if I seem a little grumpy. I just came from a job for which I'm
>>>> vastly
>>>> over-qualified. I have a freakin' master's degree in mathematics, or
>>>> genetics, or whatever, but every institution/company at which I apply 
>>>> is
>>>> run
>>>> by sighted pricks who have figured out a way not to hire me. God bless
>>>> the
>>>> ADA and the well-intentioned, ignorant bastards who sleep better at
>>>> night
>>>> for having passed it. And God bless social security, who is still
>>>> haunting
>>>> my ass four years later because I forgot to report the income I made
>>>> running
>>>> a cash register so that I could put bread on the table in between
>>>> college
>>>> semesters.
>>>>
>>>> It makes a guy wonder if Walter White didn't have a point. Screw it! 
>>>> Can
>>>> blind people be meth cookers? You ever see Breaking Bad? You 
>>>> know...it's
>>>> that super good crime show on AMC that doesn't air with description
>>>> because
>>>> Hollywood is too God damn cheap to give us description with all of 
>>>> their
>>>> content, even though they can well afford to do so with minimal effort.
>>>>
>>>> You want friggin' light bulbs? Drive to the store and grab a few boxes.
>>>> I'd
>>>> take you myself, but I haven't won the Power Ball yet and can't afford 
>>>> a
>>>> self-driving car. But let me give you directions. Siri! Work! C'mon,
>>>> damn
>>>> it! What's the nearest Wal-Mart? Flashlight? Who are you kidding? What
>>>> friggin' flashlight? Just use my cigar lighter to light your way to the
>>>> door. Pick me up a new can of butane on the way back. Yes, I smoke
>>>> cigars.
>>>> No, I'm not amazing. Dealing with your ignorant ass makes me wanna 
>>>> smoke
>>>> one
>>>> right now. No, I don't need help lighting it. Get your damn hands off 
>>>> me
>>>> before Mr. Fist meets Mr. Sack!
>>>>
>>>> It's your world and you're the king. Every day, I get up and I don't
>>>> just
>>>> live. I thrive, brother. Grow the hell up!"
>>>>
>>>> Then, out loud you can say:
>>>>
>>>> "Umm, sure thing, man. Sorry for my insensitivity to your situation. 
>>>> Can
>>>> you
>>>> drive me to the nearest Safeway to grab a few bulbs? And hey...can we
>>>> swing
>>>> through for a Big Mac on the way home?"
>>>>
>>>> Now, Jimbo, I've been assuming that the people in question are men. If
>>>> they
>>>> are women, just say:
>>>>
>>>> "Lights? Honey, for what we're gonna be doin', we don't need no 
>>>> freakin'
>>>> lights."
>>>>
>>>> Sexist and boorish, but oh so true.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> RyanO
>>>
>>>
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