[nfb-talk] captchas: was: Re: Making Our Homes Comfortable and Accessible to Blind Folks

Sun Dec 18 12:42:21 UTC 2011

Right.
That math problem is one such idea, as I mentioned.
I'll let you visit the Website, and have you check out the contact form.
http://www.aawalker.org
He ought to get an anual award from the NFB, for most accessible Website!
Blessings, Joshua

On 12/18/11, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
> Good morning everyone,
>
>     There are also utilities for particular Web environments which can be
> installed that eliminate the need for captchas all together. Keep in mind
> that audio captchas won't work for deaf-blind persons shutting them out of
> many Web-based applications and denying them access to particular site
> content.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 6:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] captchas: was: Re: Making Our Homes Comfortable and
> Accessible to Blind Folks
>
>
> Ray, one of my preacher friends has an accessible contact form.
> He has a semple math problem for you to answer, to prove that you
> aren't a spammer.
> It's a very good alternative to the captchas.
> I've dealt with these issues on all of the lists.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 12/18/11, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
>> Hate to tel you, but; so far as I am aware, Solona no longer works because
>> the one person who was doing the captcha translations became ill and
>> basically, shut down the service sort of quietly.  Seems he couldn't get
>> any
>> other human beings to help with the captcha translations.  I guess you
>> could
>> say he sort of just droped it.
>>
>> So far as I am aware, Webvisum is the only way for a bind person to
>> translate captchas, and, it must be used with Firefox under Windows; thus,
>> leaving Mac users to rely either on what ever alternative audio solution
>> any
>> given web site provides or nothing at all.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>>
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 18, 2011, at 5:56 AM, Joshua Lester wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ashley.
>>> I was offended at the language, as well.
>>> I understand where he's coming from though.
>>> I'm not against sighted people, but their ignorance of what we go
>>> through.
>>> Ryan, as for the captchas, a friend of mine, on the NABS list told me
>>> about an online service, that you could use, to read your captchas.
>>> It's free, BTW.
>>> www.solona.net
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 12/17/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> Dave,
>>>> Thanks. I was kind of offended by his message due to the langue and
>>>> sarcastic attitude toward sighted people. We all have sighted friends
>>>> and
>>>> family.
>>>> Unless you live alone or with a blind spouse, you probably have sighted
>>>> family members. Get over it; it’s a sighted, visual world and adapt to
>>>> it.
>>>> I'll post my ideas for a visual pleasing home soon. I have some vision
>>>> so
>>>> I
>>>> see the importance of visual stuff.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: David Andrews
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 11:21 PM
>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Making Our Homes Comfortable and Accessible to
>>>> Blind
>>>> Folks
>>>>
>>>> Ryan:
>>>>
>>>> I have warned you previously about posting profane and inappropriate
>>>> messages.  It doesn't seem to matter though, as you keep doing
>>>> it.  Thus, I am placing you on moderated status.
>>>>
>>>> We all understand that it is frustrating being blind, and things
>>>> aren't always easy.    This is in part why we have this
>>>> list.  However, your message isn't constructive and while it may make
>>>> you feel better, I doubt it helped anyone else.
>>>>
>>>> David Andrews, Moderator
>>>>
>>>> At 04:07 PM 12/17/2011, you wrote:
>>>>> Jimbo:
>>>>>
>>>>> Next time your friends come over and bitch about the lack of light, say
>>>>> something like this:
>>>>>
>>>>> "You know what," (insert name) "...You know what? Every freakin' day, I
>>>>> get
>>>>> up and move around in a sighted world. I work on a finite schedule with
>>>>> the
>>>>> aid of public transit because I can't drive. If the bus or train is
>>>>> late...so am I. If inclement weather strikes, I don't get in my car and
>>>>> turn
>>>>> on the windshield wipers. I freeze my nuts off in the rain or snow
>>>>> until
>>>>> I
>>>>> can get on a bus. When I go shopping, I pray to God that I can land a
>>>>> shopper's assistant who is, at the very least, literate. If they speak
>>>>> English, it makes my day. If they speak English fluently...Jesus, I've
>>>>> been
>>>>> known to weep with joy. If I shop on line, I'll be lucky if capcha,
>>>>> internet
>>>>> graphics and flash don't give me a migraine that could floor Robin
>>>>> Williams
>>>>> on a coke binge!
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry if I seem a little grumpy. I just came from a job for which I'm
>>>>> vastly
>>>>> over-qualified. I have a freakin' master's degree in mathematics, or
>>>>> genetics, or whatever, but every institution/company at which I apply
>>>>> is
>>>>> run
>>>>> by sighted pricks who have figured out a way not to hire me. God bless
>>>>> the
>>>>> ADA and the well-intentioned, ignorant bastards who sleep better at
>>>>> night
>>>>> for having passed it. And God bless social security, who is still
>>>>> haunting
>>>>> my ass four years later because I forgot to report the income I made
>>>>> running
>>>>> a cash register so that I could put bread on the table in between
>>>>> college
>>>>> semesters.
>>>>>
>>>>> It makes a guy wonder if Walter White didn't have a point. Screw it!
>>>>> Can
>>>>> blind people be meth cookers? You ever see Breaking Bad? You
>>>>> know...it's
>>>>> that super good crime show on AMC that doesn't air with description
>>>>> because
>>>>> Hollywood is too God damn cheap to give us description with all of
>>>>> their
>>>>> content, even though they can well afford to do so with minimal effort.
>>>>>
>>>>> You want friggin' light bulbs? Drive to the store and grab a few boxes.
>>>>> I'd
>>>>> take you myself, but I haven't won the Power Ball yet and can't afford
>>>>> a
>>>>> self-driving car. But let me give you directions. Siri! Work! C'mon,
>>>>> damn
>>>>> it! What's the nearest Wal-Mart? Flashlight? Who are you kidding? What
>>>>> friggin' flashlight? Just use my cigar lighter to light your way to the
>>>>> door. Pick me up a new can of butane on the way back. Yes, I smoke
>>>>> cigars.
>>>>> No, I'm not amazing. Dealing with your ignorant ass makes me wanna
>>>>> smoke
>>>>> one
>>>>> right now. No, I don't need help lighting it. Get your damn hands off
>>>>> me
>>>>> before Mr. Fist meets Mr. Sack!
>>>>>
>>>>> It's your world and you're the king. Every day, I get up and I don't
>>>>> just
>>>>> live. I thrive, brother. Grow the hell up!"
>>>>>
>>>>> Then, out loud you can say:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Umm, sure thing, man. Sorry for my insensitivity to your situation.
>>>>> Can
>>>>> you
>>>>> drive me to the nearest Safeway to grab a few bulbs? And hey...can we
>>>>> swing
>>>>> through for a Big Mac on the way home?"
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, Jimbo, I've been assuming that the people in question are men. If
>>>>> they
>>>>> are women, just say:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Lights? Honey, for what we're gonna be doin', we don't need no
>>>>> freakin'
>>>>> lights."
>>>>>
>>>>> Sexist and boorish, but oh so true.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> RyanO
>>>>
>>>>
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