[nfb-talk] captchas: was: Re: Making Our Homes Comfortable and Accessible to Blind Folks

[Joshua Lester]

It's ordered like others.
Name, E-mail, and message.
They aren't labeled, like you said, but that's what he wants.
Blessings, Joshua

On 12/18/11, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
> Wel, took a look at the contact form.  The text feilds are not labeled, so,
> I cannot tell what he wants entered in to them.  I like the math problem
> though.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
>
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>
>
>
> On Dec 18, 2011, at 6:42 AM, Joshua Lester wrote:
>
>> Right.
>> That math problem is one such idea, as I mentioned.
>> I'll let you visit the Website, and have you check out the contact form.
>> http://www.aawalker.org
>> He ought to get an anual award from the NFB, for most accessible Website!
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 12/18/11, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
>>> Good morning everyone,
>>>
>>>    There are also utilities for particular Web environments which can be
>>> installed that eliminate the need for captchas all together. Keep in mind
>>> that audio captchas won't work for deaf-blind persons shutting them out
>>> of
>>> many Web-based applications and denying them access to particular site
>>> content.
>>>
>>> Peter Donahue
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 6:10 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] captchas: was: Re: Making Our Homes Comfortable
>>> and
>>> Accessible to Blind Folks
>>>
>>>
>>> Ray, one of my preacher friends has an accessible contact form.
>>> He has a semple math problem for you to answer, to prove that you
>>> aren't a spammer.
>>> It's a very good alternative to the captchas.
>>> I've dealt with these issues on all of the lists.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 12/18/11, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
>>>> Hate to tel you, but; so far as I am aware, Solona no longer works
>>>> because
>>>> the one person who was doing the captcha translations became ill and
>>>> basically, shut down the service sort of quietly.  Seems he couldn't get
>>>> any
>>>> other human beings to help with the captcha translations.  I guess you
>>>> could
>>>> say he sort of just droped it.
>>>>
>>>> So far as I am aware, Webvisum is the only way for a bind person to
>>>> translate captchas, and, it must be used with Firefox under Windows;
>>>> thus,
>>>> leaving Mac users to rely either on what ever alternative audio solution
>>>> any
>>>> given web site provides or nothing at all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>
>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>>
>>>> Skype name:
>>>> barefootedray
>>>>
>>>> Facebook:
>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 18, 2011, at 5:56 AM, Joshua Lester wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ashley.
>>>>> I was offended at the language, as well.
>>>>> I understand where he's coming from though.
>>>>> I'm not against sighted people, but their ignorance of what we go
>>>>> through.
>>>>> Ryan, as for the captchas, a friend of mine, on the NABS list told me
>>>>> about an online service, that you could use, to read your captchas.
>>>>> It's free, BTW.
>>>>> www.solona.net
>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/17/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Dave,
>>>>>> Thanks. I was kind of offended by his message due to the langue and
>>>>>> sarcastic attitude toward sighted people. We all have sighted friends
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> family.
>>>>>> Unless you live alone or with a blind spouse, you probably have
>>>>>> sighted
>>>>>> family members. Get over it; it’s a sighted, visual world and adapt to
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> I'll post my ideas for a visual pleasing home soon. I have some vision
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> see the importance of visual stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: David Andrews
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 11:21 PM
>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Making Our Homes Comfortable and Accessible to
>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>> Folks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ryan:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have warned you previously about posting profane and inappropriate
>>>>>> messages.  It doesn't seem to matter though, as you keep doing
>>>>>> it.  Thus, I am placing you on moderated status.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We all understand that it is frustrating being blind, and things
>>>>>> aren't always easy.    This is in part why we have this
>>>>>> list.  However, your message isn't constructive and while it may make
>>>>>> you feel better, I doubt it helped anyone else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David Andrews, Moderator
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 04:07 PM 12/17/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>> Jimbo:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Next time your friends come over and bitch about the lack of light,
>>>>>>> say
>>>>>>> something like this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "You know what," (insert name) "...You know what? Every freakin' day,
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> up and move around in a sighted world. I work on a finite schedule
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> aid of public transit because I can't drive. If the bus or train is
>>>>>>> late...so am I. If inclement weather strikes, I don't get in my car
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> turn
>>>>>>> on the windshield wipers. I freeze my nuts off in the rain or snow
>>>>>>> until
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> can get on a bus. When I go shopping, I pray to God that I can land a
>>>>>>> shopper's assistant who is, at the very least, literate. If they
>>>>>>> speak
>>>>>>> English, it makes my day. If they speak English fluently...Jesus,
>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>> known to weep with joy. If I shop on line, I'll be lucky if capcha,
>>>>>>> internet
>>>>>>> graphics and flash don't give me a migraine that could floor Robin
>>>>>>> Williams
>>>>>>> on a coke binge!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry if I seem a little grumpy. I just came from a job for which I'm
>>>>>>> vastly
>>>>>>> over-qualified. I have a freakin' master's degree in mathematics, or
>>>>>>> genetics, or whatever, but every institution/company at which I apply
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>> by sighted pricks who have figured out a way not to hire me. God
>>>>>>> bless
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> ADA and the well-intentioned, ignorant bastards who sleep better at
>>>>>>> night
>>>>>>> for having passed it. And God bless social security, who is still
>>>>>>> haunting
>>>>>>> my ass four years later because I forgot to report the income I made
>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>> a cash register so that I could put bread on the table in between
>>>>>>> college
>>>>>>> semesters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It makes a guy wonder if Walter White didn't have a point. Screw it!
>>>>>>> Can
>>>>>>> blind people be meth cookers? You ever see Breaking Bad? You
>>>>>>> know...it's
>>>>>>> that super good crime show on AMC that doesn't air with description
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>> Hollywood is too God damn cheap to give us description with all of
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> content, even though they can well afford to do so with minimal
>>>>>>> effort.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You want friggin' light bulbs? Drive to the store and grab a few
>>>>>>> boxes.
>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>> take you myself, but I haven't won the Power Ball yet and can't
>>>>>>> afford
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> self-driving car. But let me give you directions. Siri! Work! C'mon,
>>>>>>> damn
>>>>>>> it! What's the nearest Wal-Mart? Flashlight? Who are you kidding?
>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>> friggin' flashlight? Just use my cigar lighter to light your way to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> door. Pick me up a new can of butane on the way back. Yes, I smoke
>>>>>>> cigars.
>>>>>>> No, I'm not amazing. Dealing with your ignorant ass makes me wanna
>>>>>>> smoke
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> right now. No, I don't need help lighting it. Get your damn hands off
>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>> before Mr. Fist meets Mr. Sack!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's your world and you're the king. Every day, I get up and I don't
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> live. I thrive, brother. Grow the hell up!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then, out loud you can say:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Umm, sure thing, man. Sorry for my insensitivity to your situation.
>>>>>>> Can
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> drive me to the nearest Safeway to grab a few bulbs? And hey...can we
>>>>>>> swing
>>>>>>> through for a Big Mac on the way home?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, Jimbo, I've been assuming that the people in question are men.
>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> are women, just say:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Lights? Honey, for what we're gonna be doin', we don't need no
>>>>>>> freakin'
>>>>>>> lights."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sexist and boorish, but oh so true.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RyanO
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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