[nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on

Tue Jul 5 17:44:42 UTC 2011

-original message-
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
From: "James Aldrich" <jajkaldrich at gmail.com>
Date: 07/05/2011 1:04 pm

Hi Dave  and list,

To answer your question, I'm certain if I had been involved, things would be 
worse (grin smile)!  I'm starting to learn how to send my own audio files.

The problem is not those involved with the stream!  One is doing the best 
they can with what they have available!  I'm certain good people are 
involved including yourself and that in itself is a good thing!  The problem 
is streaming coventions aren't a high priority with the NFB. Equipment may 
work at the home office but get it on the scene, forget it!  This nonsense 
of not getting the stream has been happening for a good 5 years or more 
perhaps.  I think more people would take advantage of it if it worked!  It 
is that plain and simple to me!  The opposition not only streams their 
convention live successfully every year, it is available on demand in its 
intirity throughout  the year!  Anyone who can stand to hear it can do so! 
I think we definitely need to put more of a priority to this than we have! 
We certainly have a good track record when we put our mind to something!  It 
gets done!  This is one of the things which needs to work much better than 
it has!  What is happening now isn't working or hasn't worked well! 
Therefore, it is roop goldburg to me, why bother?  I would like to be 
bothered and if I can't listen at a particular time, I could listen later! 
This is the age of the Iphone, and other smart phones where people can 
listen where they are, on a bus, outside or heaven only knows where!M 
Perhaps Voice of the Nation's Blind should be a full time radio station 
which sells time to those wishing to buy time to present something!  Perhaps 
it could evolve into being able to pay people to run the operation, what a 
novel idea!  I'm certain too the NFB could partner with various entaties to 
achieve a more successful dependable stream!  If various states can stream 
their conventions, why can't the national do the same successfuly?  I think 
if it worked, you'd have many people listening whether at the convention 
itself or whether at home or on the go!  This definitely is one area where 
the NFB hasn't done its job as well  as it could be done! How cool it would 
be to dial it up or download it from Newsline perhaps!

I wish I could wave a magic wand or have the expertise to fix things but I 
don't!  The fact of the matter is, how many people would listen is flawed 
because the stream itself is flawed so if the whole world knows the stream 
doesn't work, why bother?

I'll keep trying throughout the day, but I think your being at convention 
would be a good time to address this issue especially when one considers the 
rising costs of everything!  If I could listen dependably, I could Email or 
phone my state affiliate representative to tell him how I'd like him to vote 
on certain matters!  One could participate in this way and the NFB would be 
available for all the world to hear if they wished!  Our critics say we 
aren't an open and above board organization!  Therefore, some might say this 
is why streaming isn't a priority!

All I am saying is we haven't done well in this area!

Jim

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on

> Jim:
>
> How do you know that the NFB is using a rube goldberg approach?  Were you 
> involved in the planning and execution?
>
> I am sorry too that it isn't working but you and everybody else seem to be 
> pretty eager to condemn without knowing what is going on.  They are trying 
> to offer the stream in 3 different formats this year, the schedule, URL's 
> etc. were announced in advance -- this hardly seems rube goldberg to me.
>
>
> Also, I listened to stream last year, and the most listeners I ever saw on 
> at once was about 150 during banquet, most of time under 100.  So people 
> ask, and bitch and moan when it doesn't work, but it doesn't look like it 
> is that widely used to me.
>
> Dave
>
> At 09:34 AM 7/5/2011, you wrote:
>>Hello
>>All!
>>
>>I'm afraid the NFB hasn't ever been serious about live streaming audio 
>>especially when it comes to conventions.  I fully realize that this is an 
>>expense but with the costs going up to go to conventions, I think the 
>>expense could be justified.  Until that happens,we will always have this 
>>roop goldburg approach to streaming conventions.  I wish it weren't so but 
>>one cannot depend on the stream nor hear it at a later time till the 
>>Monitor comes out.
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:36 AM
>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>>
>>
>>>I can't hear anything.  When I try to open up the windows media stream, I 
>>>get a page error.  Same thing with all the other streams.  I have a 
>>>direct file download for the mp3 stream and it comes up with no audio 
>>>either. Frankly, I am beginning to wonder whether they know what they're 
>>>doing!
>>>
>>>
>>>Sincerely,
>>>The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>
>>>Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>
>>>Skype name:
>>>barefootedray
>>>
>>>Facebook:
>>>facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Jul 5, 2011, at 8:22 AM, mr. hooper wrote:
>>>
>>>>ac tually it is on but i think their audio board isn't set up right if 
>>>>you turn your volume way up you can here it.
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 8:14 AM
>>>>Subject: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hey,
>>>>>
>>>>>I think they forgot to turn the streaming for the convention on. 
>>>>>Nothing is active right now and it's already 15 minutes past the 
>>>>>starting time!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Sincerely,
>>>>>The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>Skype name:
>>>>>barefootedray
>>>>>
>>>>>Facebook:
>>>>>facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>
>
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