[nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on

[d m gina]

Oh I would love to go every year,
so many persons I would love to meet.
One problem, way to much money and wow it gets higher and higher in price loll.
Not all of us Montana folks can swing it smile.
I am pleased for those who can go though.
Wonder if there could be a way, discounts could be given for those 
states who don't have large groups who can go.
Or is there something like this in effect already.
I keep sharing with Jim I would love to take a tour of the nfb in Maryland.
I think it is called the convention center?
Now I could be wrong with that name.
Just a dream I hope will come true some day.

Original message:
> The fact that the Convention is streamed to any degree is huge progress.
> Marc made it clear to me years ago that were he to have his way, none of it
> would be streamed.  The leadership wanted all to attend in person.  Not via
> internet.  The fact that for the past few years the Conventions are being
> streamed in part or full is huge progress and a huge change from what Marc
> stated to me long ago.

> I am hoping to catch a little of it.  So I hope they get the kinks worked
> out soon.

> Thanks, William

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of James Aldrich
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:03 PM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on

> Hi Dave  and list,

> To answer your question, I'm certain if I had been involved, things would be

> worse (grin smile)!  I'm starting to learn how to send my own audio files.

> The problem is not those involved with the stream!  One is doing the best
> they can with what they have available!  I'm certain good people are
> involved including yourself and that in itself is a good thing!  The problem

> is streaming coventions aren't a high priority with the NFB. Equipment may
> work at the home office but get it on the scene, forget it!  This nonsense
> of not getting the stream has been happening for a good 5 years or more
> perhaps.  I think more people would take advantage of it if it worked!  It
> is that plain and simple to me!  The opposition not only streams their
> convention live successfully every year, it is available on demand in its
> intirity throughout  the year!  Anyone who can stand to hear it can do so!
> I think we definitely need to put more of a priority to this than we have!
> We certainly have a good track record when we put our mind to something!  It

> gets done!  This is one of the things which needs to work much better than
> it has!  What is happening now isn't working or hasn't worked well!
> Therefore, it is roop goldburg to me, why bother?  I would like to be
> bothered and if I can't listen at a particular time, I could listen later!
> This is the age of the Iphone, and other smart phones where people can
> listen where they are, on a bus, outside or heaven only knows where!
> Perhaps Voice of the Nation's Blind should be a full time radio station
> which sells time to those wishing to buy time to present something!  Perhaps

> it could evolve into being able to pay people to run the operation, what a
> novel idea!  I'm certain too the NFB could partner with various entaties to
> achieve a more successful dependable stream!  If various states can stream
> their conventions, why can't the national do the same successfuly?  I think
> if it worked, you'd have many people listening whether at the convention
> itself or whether at home or on the go!  This definitely is one area where
> the NFB hasn't done its job as well  as it could be done! How cool it would
> be to dial it up or download it from Newsline perhaps!

> I wish I could wave a magic wand or have the expertise to fix things but I
> don't!  The fact of the matter is, how many people would listen is flawed
> because the stream itself is flawed so if the whole world knows the stream
> doesn't work, why bother?

> I'll keep trying throughout the day, but I think your being at convention
> would be a good time to address this issue especially when one considers the

> rising costs of everything!  If I could listen dependably, I could Email or
> phone my state affiliate representative to tell him how I'd like him to vote

> on certain matters!  One could participate in this way and the NFB would be
> available for all the world to hear if they wished!  Our critics say we
> aren't an open and above board organization!  Therefore, some might say this

> is why streaming isn't a priority!

> All I am saying is we haven't done well in this area!

> Jim


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on


>> Jim:

>> How do you know that the NFB is using a rube goldberg approach?  Were you
>> involved in the planning and execution?

>> I am sorry too that it isn't working but you and everybody else seem to be

>> pretty eager to condemn without knowing what is going on.  They are trying

>> to offer the stream in 3 different formats this year, the schedule, URL's
>> etc. were announced in advance -- this hardly seems rube goldberg to me.


>> Also, I listened to stream last year, and the most listeners I ever saw on

>> at once was about 150 during banquet, most of time under 100.  So people
>> ask, and bitch and moan when it doesn't work, but it doesn't look like it
>> is that widely used to me.

>> Dave

>> At 09:34 AM 7/5/2011, you wrote:
>>> Hello
>>> All!

>>> I'm afraid the NFB hasn't ever been serious about live streaming audio
>>> especially when it comes to conventions.  I fully realize that this is an
>>> expense but with the costs going up to go to conventions, I think the
>>> expense could be justified.  Until that happens,we will always have this
>>> roop goldburg approach to streaming conventions.  I wish it weren't so but

>>> one cannot depend on the stream nor hear it at a later time till the
>>> Monitor comes out.

>>> Jim

>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:36 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on


>>>> I can't hear anything.  When I try to open up the windows media stream, I

>>>> get a page error.  Same thing with all the other streams.  I have a
>>>> direct file download for the mp3 stream and it comes up with no audio
>>>> either. Frankly, I am beginning to wonder whether they know what they're
>>>> doing!


>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

>>>> Skype name:
>>>> barefootedray

>>>> Facebook:
>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1



>>>> On Jul 5, 2011, at 8:22 AM, mr. hooper wrote:

>>>>> ac tually it is on but i think their audio board isn't set up right if
>>>>> you turn your volume way up you can here it.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 8:14 AM
>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on


>>>>>> Hey,

>>>>>> I think they forgot to turn the streaming for the convention on.
>>>>>> Nothing is active right now and it's already 15 minutes past the
>>>>>> starting time!!!!


>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

>>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

>>>>>> Skype name:
>>>>>> barefootedray

>>>>>> Facebook:
>>>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1


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