[nfb-talk] Tipping

Fri Jul 15 15:47:36 UTC 2011

The gratuity at the Osceollo Cafe was 18 percent. The Headwaters Lounge didn't add gratuity automatically so I tried to tip rather well there. Long live hamburgers and nachos!

Mike

On Jul 15, 2011, at 1:02, "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com> wrote:

> Likewise, unless the service was exceptional.  It’s funny, I tend to tip more when they don’t, because I tend to write the total for a relatively round number resulting in 15-20% tip, and more if the service was good.  For a short time, I worked food service, so I tend   to be very generous in that department when it’s totally up to me.
> 
> Gratuity is usually calculated at 15%, and so that’s what they get from me unless I had reason to do the extra work.
> 
> Joseph
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 07:52:06PM -0700, Jessica wrote:
>> If restaurants already add gratuity then I do not tip.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 14, 2011, at 3:57 PM, <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes some restaurants do and some don't. I am sure to ask if they added it to the bill since of course I can't see the charge. If not, I add some to it for a tip.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Marsha Drenth
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 5:02 PM
>>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Tipping
>>> 
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> Not all the restaurants added gratuity. The Italian place and the Club house
>>> restaurant both did not add tip, but we did add it for our servers.
>>> 
>>> Marsha
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Peter Donahue
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:40 AM
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Tipping
>>> 
>>> Hello Marsha and everyone,
>>> 
>>>  Tips were automatically added to your bill in the restaurants at the
>>> Shingle Creek. None the less we made sure our servers and other hotel staff
>>> got their share.
>>> 
>>> Peter Donahue
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 8:30 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tipping is a whole different subject. I am not cheap in that regard. Like at
>>> the Rosen Hotel, someone helped us up to our room with our groceries, I
>>> tipped that person. The person who set up our roll away bed, I tipped him.
>>> We left tips for all our waiters at all the restaurants. Tipping is for good
>>> service.
>>> 
>>> Marsha
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:10 PM
>>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>> 
>>> I don't like tipping, either. But I do it because it's the way the world
>>> works.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Marsha Drenth
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 6:13 PM
>>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>> 
>>> Entitlement? Not me atleast, can't speak for anyone else. I am not a big fan
>>> of hotels and business nicle and dimeing you for every single little thing.
>>> I know its how they make their money. But extra pillows, so an extra $5.00,
>>> Or you need to use the bathroom on a plane now, so you will have to fork
>>> over $5.00, to relieve yourself. I mean come on people.
>>> 
>>> Just my two cents, but I promise ya it won't cost ya two cents!
>>> Marsha
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:03 PM
>>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>> 
>>> The charges are about the same. In my experience, hotels with free wifi are
>>> usually much smaller as in, for example, the Holiday Inn Capitol where we
>>> hold the Washington Seminar.
>>> 
>>> I surely hope we aren't working ourselves into an entitlement mentality.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 3:42 PM
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>> 
>>> Well, how much do other large hotels charge? Some small hotels have no
>>> charge, but they do have several public computers to use; they know business
>>> 
>>> people need to conduct business.
>>> I wonder what is reasonable? Compare that to other hotels to find out.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Loren Wakefield
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 3:08 PM
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>> 
>>> That amount is something like the mob would charge.  There is absolutely no
>>> reason to charge that much except that they think they can.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:09 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 9.95 a day.
>>>> 
>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:44 PM
>>>> To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>> 
>>>> yes it is nice to check email though when you would wish.
>>>> What was the cost to use their system?
>>>> Five dollars?
>>>> Would that be a day?
>>>> Jim likes to check things out like that.
>>>> Me, I would rather use my new system with Verizon.
>>>> I have worked hard to do email by the phone, and even if I say so myself,
>>>> I
>>>> plum don't do that bad.
>>>> My lists laugh at me if they get a blank message.
>>>> I even hit the wrong keys on this computer trying to do something else.
>>>> Keeps me thinking.
>>>> 
>>>> Original message:
>>>>> Of course, the question is *why?* After all, one presumably goes to
>>>>> conventions to attend meetings, not dabble on the Internet. <<putting
>>>>> on fire-resistant suit>>
>>>> 
>>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>> On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 5:35 PM
>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>> 
>>>>> More frustrating was that there was no wifi at any price anywhere in
>>>>> the area of the meeting rooms.  Were I to make one request of the
>>>>> national office when we return, it would be to obtain internet access
>>>>> for the meeting rooms and set up a few wifi routers at selected
>>>>> locations for basic access.
>>>> 
>>>>> Joseph
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 04:01:59PM -0400, Marsha Drenth wrote:
>>>>>> Just my two cents on this convention. The hotel was nice, very clean,
>>>>>> nice rooms, and the staff was great. It was huge, people thought we
>>>>>> walked a lot in Dallas, folks that is NOTHING! The food in the hotel
>>>>>> was very very expensive, way way more than any of the restaurants in
>>>>>> Dallas. It did help greatly to have the Publics across the street. If
>>>>>> and when I go back, I
>>>>> must
>>>>>> remember to take good walking shoes. In regards to the WiFi, yes it
>>>>>> totally sucked there was no free access any where in the hotel. And
>>>>>> yet again I am too cheap to buy it. As far as the cell coverage, I
>>>>>> have Verizon and had converage every where in the hotel and rooms. So
>>>>>> I think that really
>>>>> depends
>>>>>> on your carrier.
>>>> 
>>>>>> Marsha
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 12:43 AM
>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, Mr. Rosen was REALLY impressed with the NFB, and Dr. Maurer was
>>>>>> really impressed with the facility.  Hopefully the two of them can
>>>>>> work something out to reduce the nickel-and-dime effects somewhat.  I
>>>>>> certainly have no objection to the hotel making money-but the
>>>>>> incidental fees are both too high and too frequent to be comfortable.
>>>>>> There isn't even lobby wifi access without a fee, and the hotel is
>>>>>> full of cellular dead zones.
>>>> 
>>>>>> Joseph
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 11:43:17PM -0400, Brian Miller wrote:
>>>>>>> Did they say if it was to be at the same hotel all those years?
>>>> 
>>>>>>> Brian M
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sherri
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:00 PM
>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List; blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>> 
>>>>>>> It was announced at the convention that conventions from 2013
>>>>>>> through 2017 will be held in Orlando. I wish we could extend the
>>>>>>> length of the
>>>>>> convention
>>>>>>> back to how it was and NFB would organize tours for Wednesday
>>>>>>> afternoon.
>>>>>>> That way, people could get excited about Orlando and have time to go
>>>>>> places.
>>>>>>> I liked the old schedule much better. If we are going to keep people
>>>>>>> here for five years in a row, we need to give them ample opportunity
>>>>>>> to take advantage of all there is to do in Orlando. Besides, I like
>>>>>>> the banquet
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> night before the last day of convention.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sherri Brun
>>>>>>> "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
>>>>>>> John Lennon
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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