[nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years

Mon Jul 18 00:20:27 UTC 2011

hi,

if you weren't prepared with a rolling option, that's your sweat.

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
To: "Eddie Salcido" <rednexican at socal.rr.com>; "NFB Talk Mailing List" 
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Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years

> Good evening everyone,
>
>    Strap on 50 to 100 pounds of professional recording gear and you'll get
> your exercise in a place like the Shingle Creek big-time! Now to review 
> and
> edit the results of that mammoth work-out. Then I'll begin training for
> 2013.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Eddie Salcido" <rednexican at socal.rr.com>
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> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 6:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>
>
> I agree with Mike.  I liked the Shingle Creek's layout better than the
> Hilton in Dallas.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 10:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>
>
>>I thought the Shingle Creek had a great layout. Besides, we're all 
>>supposed
>>to get more exercise, aren't we?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On Jul 15, 2011, at 10:19, Jessica <jessmonsilva2003 at sbcglobal.net> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Definitely a better choice going with the Rosen center. Sure the hotel
>>> isn't massively big, but it definitely has a much better layout.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jul 15, 2011, at 4:56 AM, "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> The next convention in Orlando will be at the Rosen Center Hotel and it
>>>> will be closer to I-Drive and there is lots of businesses around it
>>>> there which is with in walking distance.
>>>> We, here in the Florida Affiliate, are listening and we will try to be
>>>> your eyes and ears leading up to the next convention.
>>>> As for WIFI and Internet connections, we will let the Rosen Hotel know
>>>> and as we have 2 years to work on it, who knows what will happen?
>>>> Remember, this is a service that most other people must pay for.  Why
>>>> should we get it free if they don't?
>>>> It would be nice, but don't count on it.
>>>> I had no trouble with cell phone connections anywhere in the hotel and 
>>>> I
>>>> use Verizon.
>>>> Consider this.  Most buildings in Florida are of CBS and reinforced
>>>> steel construction, they are dense and this can block cell phone 
>>>> signals
>>>> to a degree depending upon where you are at.  I have that problem even
>>>> in my own house and can just move 5 feet, either way and I get a signal
>>>> again.  WIFI must stand for, "When I Feel Inclined."
>>>>
>>>> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica"
>>>> <jessmonsilva2003 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> To: <bundy at pobox.com>; "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:16 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I agree that wifi was pretty sparse in that area. An interesting point
>>>>> though is this. Every convention I have been to the hotels weren't
>>>>> close to much. When I stayed at the Rosen center I was closer to a lot
>>>>> more stuff, so it strikes me odd why they couldn't have it thre
>>>>> instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 14, 2011, at 10:28 AM, bundy at pobox.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> M5
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -original message-
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>> From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Date: 07/13/2011 1:47 pm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was Starbucks coffee, not Starbucks storefront.  And yes, I
>>>>>> stumbled the whole grounds looking for something.  Nothing to be had
>>>>>> without cracking one patron’s MyFi that was using WEP encryption.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I have some employment, I’ve got to give one of those things
>>>>>> serious consideration.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 01:21:27PM -0400, Wm. Ritchhart wrote:
>>>>>>> Joseph,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did you actually check out that the Starbucks in the hotel did not
>>>>>>> have the AT&T WIFI?  It's certainly possible that their contract 
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> AT&T is void in a hotel like the one in Orlando.  Still I'd of
>>>>>>> checked there before paying the $9.95 hotel rate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, William
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:22 PM
>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, from the hotel, the nearest thing to the main hotel was a
>>>>>>> Publix grocery store, and it was about 3/4 of a mile away.  Closer 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> the Rosen Centre was a Walgreens (no WiFi) and a Denny’s (no WiFi),
>>>>>>> and across another street was a Red Lobster (would have had no 
>>>>>>> WiFi),
>>>>>>> and a McDonald’s (probably had WiFi, didn’t go there).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Starbucks coffee was had in the hotel, and as I’ve said, no 
>>>>>>> WiFi,
>>>>>>> unless you paid $10 a day, and then it only worked in the hotel 
>>>>>>> lobby
>>>>>>> whose distance from the meeting rooms was again half a mile.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have to understand, the hotel was MASSIVE.  It made Dallas look
>>>>>>> small by comparison.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 06:57:56AM -0400, Wm. Ritchhart wrote:
>>>>>>>> I do not have much sympathy over the 9.95 per day hotel internet.
>>>>>>>> These places use the extras to generate a huge part of their
>>>>>>>> revenue. Many have stated there were many businesses near the main
>>>>>>>> hotel.  Why not locate a Starbucks or McDonalds or one of the
>>>>>>>> growing number of businesses that provide free or low-cost WIFI for
>>>>>>>> its customers?  I would not expect people to go off during 
>>>>>>>> sessions.
>>>>>>>> However sessions generally start at 9:00 A.M. always end around 
>>>>>>>> 5:00
>>>>>>>> P.M.  Which leaves sometime to care for checking the bank balance 
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> reading email.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's a different issue for people who are working.  I've been 
>>>>>>>> pulled
>>>>>>>> out of a session once or twice and asked to accomplish a task 
>>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>> a presentation I wanted to hear.  An internet connection would have
>>>>>>>> been nice.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks, William
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:22 AM
>>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> $10 per day, with a half-mile hike from the meeting rooms to the
>>>>>>>> nearest place it could be used.  Wifi in hotel lobby, ethernet in
>>>>>>>> your room.  If you just needed to arrange a meeting, you had to 
>>>>>>>> walk
>>>>>>>> all that way and hope that the person at the other end had a way of
>>>>>>>> receiving the message.  Not everyone did.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You couldn’t call if one or both parties were on certain cellphone
>>>>>>>> carriers, because one or both of you were unlikely to have service.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And more than one person at convention was discussing the need to
>>>>>>>> connect to the Internet to monitor their bank account or similar (I
>>>>>>>> can’t recommend being dependent on that, however.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I personally had a package delivered while I was away that I wasn’t
>>>>>>>> sure actually got delivered until I got home.  I’m glad my neighbor
>>>>>>>> was able to sign for it, because my apartment manager was out last
>>>>>>>> week while I was in Orlando.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There would have been a lot more coverage of convention on sites
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>> Twitter and Facebook, including drawing attention to the 
>>>>>>>> sub-minimum
>>>>>>>> wage stuff if people could have accessed those services.  In 2009
>>>>>>>> there was an attempt to organize a Tweet-up which half the twitter
>>>>>>>> users at convention didn’t know about because they didn’t have
>>>>>>>> access to Twitter.  If there was one in 2011, I never heard about
>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Those of us working during session outside of the session hall 
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> have loved to have access to the stream.  We tried, of course, but
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> didn’t work either because of poor cellular reception, the issues
>>>>>>>> with the stream, or both.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The big sponsor for the convention this year was eBay.  It would’ve
>>>>>>>> been a lot easier in the eBay sessions (aside from the first one) 
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>> people could’ve actually gotten on eBay to see and try the things
>>>>>>>> suggested.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Internet is part of how people do business in the modern world.
>>>>>>>> It’s an even bigger part of how the average younger blind person
>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>> business.  Not having it available for eight days hobbled those of
>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>> who could have done a lot more if we’d had it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:44:04PM -0400, d m gina wrote:
>>>>>>>>> yes it is nice to check email though when you would wish.
>>>>>>>>> What was the cost to use their system?
>>>>>>>>> Five dollars?
>>>>>>>>> Would that be a day?
>>>>>>>>> Jim likes to check things out like that.
>>>>>>>>> Me, I would rather use my new system with Verizon.
>>>>>>>>> I have worked hard to do email by the phone, and even if I say so
>>>>>>>>> myself, I plum don't do that bad.
>>>>>>>>> My lists laugh at me if they get a blank message.
>>>>>>>>> I even hit the wrong keys on this computer trying to do something
>>>>>>>>> else.
>>>>>>>>> Keeps me thinking.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>>>> Of course, the question is *why?* After all, one presumably goes
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> conventions to attend meetings, not dabble on the Internet.
>>>>>>>>>> <<putting on
>>>>>>>>>> fire-resistant suit>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 5:35 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> More frustrating was that there was no wifi at any price anywhere
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> the area of the meeting rooms.  Were I to make one request of the
>>>>>>>>>> national office when we return, it would be to obtain internet
>>>>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>>>>> for the meeting rooms and set up a few wifi routers at selected
>>>>>>>>>> locations for basic access.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 04:01:59PM -0400, Marsha Drenth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Just my two cents on this convention. The hotel was nice, very
>>>>>>>>>>> clean, nice
>>>>>>>>>>> rooms, and the staff was great. It was huge, people thought we
>>>>>>>>>>> walked a lot
>>>>>>>>>>> in Dallas, folks that is NOTHING! The food in the hotel was very
>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>> expensive, way way more than any of the restaurants in Dallas. 
>>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>> did help
>>>>>>>>>>> greatly to have the Publics across the street. If and when I go
>>>>>>>>>>> back, I
>>>>>>>>>> must
>>>>>>>>>>> remember to take good walking shoes. In regards to the WiFi, yes
>>>>>>>>>>> it totally
>>>>>>>>>>> sucked there was no free access any where in the hotel. And yet
>>>>>>>>>>> again I am
>>>>>>>>>>> too cheap to buy it. As far as the cell coverage, I have Verizon
>>>>>>>>>>> and had
>>>>>>>>>>> converage every where in the hotel and rooms. So I think that
>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>> depends
>>>>>>>>>>> on your carrier.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 12:43 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, Mr. Rosen was REALLY impressed with the NFB, and Dr. Maurer
>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>> really impressed with the facility.  Hopefully the two of them
>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>> work something out to reduce the nickel-and-dime effects
>>>>>>>>>>> somewhat. I
>>>>>>>>>>> certainly have no objection to the hotel making money-but the
>>>>>>>>>>> incidental fees are both too high and too frequent to be
>>>>>>>>>>> comfortable.
>>>>>>>>>>> There isn't even lobby wifi access without a fee, and the hotel
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> full of cellular dead zones.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 11:43:17PM -0400, Brian Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Did they say if it was to be at the same hotel all those years?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian M
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Sherri
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:00 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List; blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It was announced at the convention that conventions from 2013
>>>>>>>>>>>> through 2017
>>>>>>>>>>>> will be held in Orlando. I wish we could extend the length of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> convention
>>>>>>>>>>>> back to how it was and NFB would organize tours for Wednesday
>>>>>>>>>>>> afternoon.
>>>>>>>>>>>> That way, people could get excited about Orlando and have time
>>>>>>>>>>>> to go
>>>>>>>>>>> places.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I liked the old schedule much better. If we are going to keep
>>>>>>>>>>>> people here
>>>>>>>>>>>> for five years in a row, we need to give them ample opportunity
>>>>>>>>>>>> to take
>>>>>>>>>>>> advantage of all there is to do in Orlando. Besides, I like the
>>>>>>>>>>>> banquet
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> night before the last day of convention.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sherri Brun
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other
>>>>>>>>>>>> plans." John
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lennon
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Check out http://www.raceforindependence.org/goto/Sherri.Brun
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> E-mail: flmom2006 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> NFBF NewslineR chair
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.nfbnewsline.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> Vice-president NFB Greater Orlando Chapter http://nfbfgoc.org
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>>>>>>>>>>>> INC www.fdcp.org Chair Orange County Disability Advisory
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