[nfb-talk] need help with jaws

Mon Jun 13 20:07:16 UTC 2011

Joshua,

The BrailleNote Apex is awesome! That's what I've done email and 
Internet with ever since I joined this list.  But I would keep a 
computer for a backup plan, only because some Web sites are 
accessible to the BrailleNote that aren't to screen readers, and 
vice versa.  So, for example, if you're doing a research project, 
you won't be caught when a site isn't accessible to the BN.  It 
might be to JAWS or NVDA or whatever screen reader.  Oh BTW, if 
you have Windows 7, there's a screen reader called Narrator (and 
not the Narrator with the ultra-annoying speech synthesizer that 
sounds like an angry robot) built into Windows.  Maybe you could 
use that instead of worrying about JAWS.  I use JAWS, but my 
school system bought it for me both at school and at home, so I 
don't have to worry about it until college.  And if you have a 
Mac...  well VoiceOver is built in.  HTH!

 Chris

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--- Sent from my BrailleNote

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:00:51 -0500
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] need help with jaws

Well, that's why everyone needs to join me.
I'm about to get rid of Jaws, anyway, because of a different 
problem.
I'm wanting to experiment with HumanWare's products.
Facebook won't cooperate with Jaws.
Every time I try to create a page, the Jaws makes my computer 
shut down.
I don't understand why.
I have Jaws 11.0.
Blessings, Joshua

On 6/9/11, John Heim <john at johnheim.net> wrote:
 Right now I am at 12.0.1161 which was just released  the day 
before
 yesterday.  That was another thing they had me do, update to the 
very latest
 version.  But I can reproduce this problem on a machine running 
version 9.  I
 can reproduce it on Windows XP, jaws version 9, and Windows XP 
jaws version
 12, and Windows 7 jaws version 12.  I can reproduce the problem 
on every
 machine I've tried it on and have been able to do so for many 
years.

 To be quite honest, I think Freedom Scientific is jerking me 
around.  But I
 thought I'd better make sure before i started thinking badly of 
them.

 First they asked for a more detailed explanation of the problem 
which I
 think is fairly clear to anyone who knows anything about 
computers.  Second,
 they made me update my version even though my version was only a 
couple of
 weeks old and the problem has been around for years anyway.  Now 
they say
 they can't reproduce it.  Hmmm...  I suppose its possible I've 
done something
 wrong when installing jaws all these years but I just set up a 
Windows 7
 machine a few weeks ago and haven't done anything to it yet but 
installed
 jaws.  And it does the same thing.  I mean, its practically a 
fresh install of
 Win7.

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
 To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 12:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] need help with jaws

 John, what version do you use?
 If I were you, I'd talk to the freedom scientific guys, in 
person.
 They should be at convention, this year.
 Are you going?
 Blessings, Joshua

 On 6/9/11, Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
 hi,

 you are correct, even after switching to say all, nothing is 
spoken with
 the
 screen maximized.

 Bryan Schulz

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "John Heim" <john at johnheim.net
 To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 11:35 AM
 Subject: [nfb-talk] need help with jaws

 All,

 I'm having a problem with my jaws screen reader.  I submitted a 
bug
 report
 but Freedom Scientific tells me they can't reproduce the bug.  
My
 experience has been that all version of jaws have had this 
problem and
 it
 happens on every computer I've ever tried it on.  So I was 
hoping other
 users of jaws could tell me if they can reproduce the problem.

 The problem is that jaws can't read text in a full screen 
command
 window.
 A command window is the way Microsoft Windows lets you ttype in 
commands
 sort of like the old days of DOS.  If you use jaws I think you 
may be
 able
 to reproduce my problem by doing the following:

 1.  Press Windows+r to open a run dialog box.  Jaws should say 
"Type the
 name of a program etcetera" Type the word command and press 
enter.  That
 should open a command window.
 2.  Press Alt+Enter to make the window full screen.  At this 
point, if you
 type a command like dir or help, text will be displayed on the 
screen
 but
 not spoken by jaws.  Or at least that is what it does for me.
 3.  Put the window back to normal size by pressing Alt+Enter 
again.  Now
 when you type a command, jaws will work correctly and read the 
text that
 is displayed.

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