[nfb-talk] orlando attractions

Wed Jun 29 03:11:52 UTC 2011

hi,

i hope some common sense would be considered as probably at least 90% of 
most parks are asphalt and could easily burn the dogs paws.

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Miller" <brian-r-miller at uiowa.edu>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] orlando attractions

> Hi Dave and listers,
>
> I disagree about the blanket statement regarding dogs  and amusement 
> parks.
> I use a cane, but my wife uses a dog, and she brings him to all the parks.
> We've been to Disneyland, Disney World, Epcot, Magic Mountain in Los
> Angeles, Marine World in the Bay Area, and probably others I'm forgetting.
>
> Her dog actually went on some of the more chill rides, but he even went on
> Pirates of the Caribbean and was fine.  Obviously the coasters are a 
> no-go,
> so someone either has to stay back with the dog and wait at the loading
> station and switch out when the owner returns, or, in some cases, you can
> tie down the dog and leave them there for the three minutes or so you are 
> on
> the ride, and often the operators will make sure no one bothers the dog.
> This is obviously according to one's preference, however.
>
> We've often traveled with friends to parks, so one couple will ride while
> the other holds the dog, then they switch off.
>
> In any case, it is entirely up to you what you do, but I wouldn't say 
> under
> no circumstances take a dog.  You should consider the weather, too --
> especially in Disney World in July it will be scortching hot, and running
> around all day in that heat might be too much for the dog to take -- heck,
> for the humans too.
>
> Have fun, either way, that's the point.
>
> Brian M
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of David Evans
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 9:05 PM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] orlando attractions
>
>
> Dear All,
>
> I would say that you should not take your guide dog along as it is very 
> hot
> and they can not go on the rides.  You would need someone to hold on to 
> your
> dog when you were on the rides and the employees are not allowed to help 
> you
> by watching your dog.
> The parks all have boarding kennels where you can leave your dog in the 
> air
> conditioning and they will be watered and safe.
> If you can use a cane, take a folding cane or a telescoping cane as you 
> can
> keep this with you in the ride cars.  I use a "D" ring clip on the lanyard
> to clip it to a belt loop and leave my hands free and without worry that 
> my
> cane is going to get flung out of the ride car.  I use a telescoping cane
> and never had a problem, even on Space Mountain which is very rough and 
> has
> both positive and negative "G's".
> I have gone to the parks at least 12 times since I moved back her to
> Florida.
> I like Epcot the best and Disney World second.
>
> I think that when the convention comes back again in 2013, I will do
> something about having some tours set up and tickets ready for sale to 
> help
> people.
>
> David Evans,NFBF and GD Jack.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 5:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] orlando attractions
>
>
>> Theme park with a guide dog? Not a good idea. Its very hot and congested
>> and you cannot take your guide on the ride anyway. So what would it do
>> during that time?  I think you'd be better off with a cane and still you
>> have to find somewhere to place the cane while you're on the ride. I've
>> not been alone so I'm not sure what you'd do with a cane.
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Jessica
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:34 PM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] orlando attractions
>>
>> David that is amazing. I have been to several theme parks but always with
>> someone sighted. Universal's parks are so humungus though lol.
>> Also has anyone went to a theme park with a guide dog?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 28, 2011, at 9:27 AM, "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Dear Jessica,
>>>
>>> I do not let the thought of visiting a theme park worry me much.
>>> Several years ago, I went to a National Convention in Dallas and when to
>>> Six Flags Over Texas.
>>> I was with 3 other Blind people who were total and I was the only one
>>> with any vision at all.
>>> As we came through the gate at the park, a park employee stopped us and
>>> seemed concerned because we were all Blind.
>>> He told us to wait there and he would be back in a few minutes.  He did
>>> not say why we should wait, but we were afraid that they were going to
>>> try to throw us out of the park.
>>> We did not wait around, but took off to enjoy ourselves until they 
>>> caught
>
>>> us and tossed us out under protest.
>>> We found our way around by asking questions of other people and rode 
>>> just
>
>>> about every thing.
>>> One of the people I was with, a tall blind guy named Richard, said that
>>> he would like to go on a roll-a-coaster, but not one that went upside
>>> down. He was afraid that it would make him sick or that he would fall 
>>> out
>
>>> of it.
>>> We did not tell him, but we took him on at least 4 coasters that day 
>>> that
>
>>> did go upside down and later when we told him what he had done, you 
>>> could
>
>>> not wipe the grin off his face.  Richard"s parents had always sheltered
>>> him and discouraged him from trying things because they were afraid he
>>> would get hurt.  He had no self confidence at this point in his life and
>>> both of his parents were now dead.
>>>
>>> We also drove the bumper cars.
>>> We had to wait in line for the ride and as we got up to the front, the
>>> ride operators would count off so many people and then send them out to
>>> get into the cars.
>>> When it came time for us to go out and get into the cars, there were 
>>> only
>
>>> a few other people that went out ahead of us and got into the cars.  The
>>> 4 of us split up and using our White Canes felt around and one by one
>>> found an empty car and got in.
>>> We then sat there for a few minutes until we heard an announcement that
>>> asked for volunteers to finish filling up the cars.  I could see that 
>>> the
>
>>> line was still very long, there were at least 20 cars empty still,  but
>>> not one person came out to get into the cars after us.
>>> Finally, the cars started up and the 4 of us would shout and yell so 
>>> that
>
>>> the others would have an idea of where we were.  We drove around the
>>> track smashing into each other and the other cars as well.  I could hear
>>> some of the people in the line talking to each other and remarking about
>>> us and our driving.  Like how do they know which way to go.  Did you see
>>> that blind guy T-bone that other guy?  How do they do that, I would be 
>>> so
>
>>> scared.
>>> The ride ran a little longer than the other times we had seen go on
>>> before us, but it finally stopped and we all got out of our cars and
>>> produced our Long White Canes.
>>> I was closest to the exit and I yelled to the others and they used their
>>> canes and worked their way around all of the stopped cars and over to
>>> where I was standing on the curb.
>>> As the last of our group climbed the curb and we were all together,
>>> everyone in the line started clapping and yelling for us.  The 4 of us
>>> looked at each other and then without a word we all turned to the crowd
>>> and did a nice little bow for them.  Then we turned around and left the
>>> ride laughing.
>>> We bumped into people from that crowd the rest of the day and some came
>>> over and said that they never thought that anyone blind could do what we
>>> did or that they were surprised to see blind people having the same kind
>>> of fun as everyone else.  They asked if we had special training to learn
>>> how to go on the rides and do what we did  and we just told them that we
>>> had mobility training but that was all.
>>> There are about 250 people who will never look at Blind people the same
>>> way again.
>>> We spent over 6 hours in that park and then found our way out and back 
>>> to
>
>>> the bus pickup and with back to the hotel exhausted.
>>> That day was a major turning point for Richard and he was never afraid 
>>> of
>
>>> going anywhere again after riding the bumper cars and those coasters and
>>> going upside down.  He still claims that was the best day of his life.
>>>
>>> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica"
>>> <jessmonsilva2003 at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:03 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] orlando attractions
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm going to call guest services and see what they tell me since a few
>>>> of us plan on going.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 28, 2011, at 7:46 AM, "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have no information on Universial Studios, but there is a lot of
>>>>> walking there just to get into the main park area.
>>>>> I would suggest that you buddy up with someone you know or check with
>>>>> the parks ticket offices to see if they have anything special to help
>>>>> you get around.  It is always more fun with a friend.
>>>>>
>>>>> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica"
>>>>> <jessmonsilva2003 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 10:17 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] orlando attractions
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm wanting to go to islands of adventure to see the wizzarding world
>>>>>> of Harry potter. I get concerned though since I have no sight at all
>>>>>> how I'll find anything there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 28, 2011, at 5:09 AM, "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Kerri,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Epcot and Disney World have an electronic system that uses a hand
>>>>>>> held device to give you directions and information about the park, 
>>>>>>> as
>
>>>>>>> you walk around.  It can help you locate restrooms, places to eat.
>>>>>>> the entrances of the rides and attractions and much more.
>>>>>>> Our own Dwight Sayers of the Florida Affiliate has tested these
>>>>>>> devices and could give you more about them.  Contact the ticket
>>>>>>> offices at Disney to get more info.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerri Kosten"
>>>>>>> <kerrik2006 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 2:31 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] orlando attractions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Jessica and Everyone:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm kind of wondering the same thing. My aunt and uncle are coming
>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>> on July 10th and we are going to Disney but I have the day of July
>>>>>>>> 9th
>>>>>>>> (day after convention) to myself and am trying to figure out what 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> do. I would really like to go to one of the parks but at this point
>>>>>>>> don't have anyone to go with. I'm also curious to see what others
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> doing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kerri
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/28/11, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I'm going early rather than staying late.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mike Freeman
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Jessica silva
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 9:00 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org; nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] orlando attractions
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello all:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know we are all getting excited for the convention coming up, as
>>>>>>>>> we should
>>>>>>>>> be.  There will be lots of interesting neat things related to
>>>>>>>>> blindness that
>>>>>>>>> will be presented and discussed.  I'm writing to ask however, if
>>>>>>>>> anyone is
>>>>>>>>> staying after the 8th, since it will be a weekend.  If so, do you
>>>>>>>>> plan on
>>>>>>>>> going to any of the local Orlando attractions or any of the 
>>>>>>>>> tourist
>>>>>>>>> attractions and which ones?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This convention seems like it is going to turn out to be 
>>>>>>>>> certainly
>
>>>>>>>>> one of
>>>>>>>>> the biggest.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> See you all in Orlando.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jessica
>>>>>>>>>
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