[nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the NFB, please read.

Sun Jul 15 19:22:25 UTC 2012

Roger:
You don't have to attend conventions, to be a member.
Just make donations, and support.
BTW, the NFB is the voice of the nation's blind.
We give free white canes to people, and if you need one, you can order
one off of the site.
You will also notice, that there is more emphasis on education, than
what the other group offers.
I've heard speeches by some of the other group's leaders, where
they're rude and disrespectfull to the NFB, but I've never heard Dr
Maurer say anything bad about the other group.
Our conventions are more civil, than what I've heard, from the other group.
I was almost sold on the ACB, several years ago, but I was smart
enough to do my research.
I almost fell for the accessible currency nonsense, until I saw the
light, so to speak, and I knew, that the NFB was for me!
Blessings, Joshua

On 7/15/12, Roger devin Prater <r.d.t.prater at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hmm, well I would need to look into the process of joining. I may not be
> able to come to many conventions and stuff but I'd join I guess. I just need
>
> to find out more about it and what it stands for and what all it offers.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gloria Whipple" <glowhi at centurylink.net>
> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
> NFB,please read.
>
>
>>I hope you do! The nfb cares about their members. They are such good
>> supporters when needed.
>>
>> Gloria Whipple
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Roger devin Prater
>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 14:05
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
>> NFB,
>> please read.
>>
>> Well, I've also thought about joining the NFB, because they actually
>> provide
>>
>> services like the NFB newsline and things like that, and I don't really
>> know
>>
>> of any that the ACB provides besides their ACB radio thing.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
>> NFB,
>> please read.
>>
>>
>> Glad to hear this!
>> Welcome to the NFB!
>> Another convert here!
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 7/15/12, Michael Capelle <michael.capelle at charter.net> wrote:
>>> Hello.
>>> This is going to be a long post, and a lot of heads will turn, I'm sure.
>>> For many years, a lot of people will know, that I was heavilly involved
>>> in the American Council of the Blind, (ACB). Well, this years convention
>>> definitely decided for me, read on, and you will find out why. Now,
>>> before I continue, I want everyone to remember, that I'm not trying to
>>> bash ACB, just speaking my opinion. First of all, the biggest complaint
>>> I had, was I felt the conference/convention was very disorganized. The
>>> roll call of states, seemed very disorganized, and honestly, the "fat"
>>> jokes were getting very old. Then, on monday, the door prize people were
>>> not even ready, to hand out door prizes. I just felt it was not good as
>>> in previous years. Now, on to the biggest complaint. as some of you
>>> know, we are in the process of passing a bill, for the subminimum wages.
>>> Basically, making it illegal to pay blind persons less money then their
>>> sighted colleagues. The following information, below, is taken from the
>>> publication. The NFB, (national Federation of the Blind) definitely
>>> supports this, and so do I, again, see below.
>>> Voice of the Nation's Blind
>>> National Federation of the Blind Logo
>>> Marc Maurer, President
>>> 200 East Wells Street
>>> at Jernigan Place
>>> Baltimore, MD 21230
>>> Phone 410 659 9314 Fax 410 685 5653
>>> www.nfb.org
>>> The Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act of 2011
>>> H.R. 3086
>>> Disabled workers have been unfairly excluded from the federal minimum
>>> wage for 74 years, and today over 300,000 disabled workers are working
>>> for subminimum wages.
>>> Section 14(c) of the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) discriminates
>>> against people with disabilities. This section allows the Secretary of
>>> Labor to grant special wage certificates to employers, permitting them
>>> to pay their workers with disabilities less than the minimum wage, often
>>> in sheltered work environments. In some instances disabled workers are
>>> being paid pennies per hour.
>>> This discrimination is rooted in low expectations based on
>>> misconceptions about the capabilities of disabled people. The law
>>> falsely implies that people with disabilities cannot be productive
>>> employees, and subminimum wage employers prey on society's misconception
>>> that disabled people are incapable of being competitively employed. In
>>> reality, when provided the proper rehabilitation training and tools,
>>> workers with disabilities can be productive and financially independent.
>>> Subminimum wage supports an outdated business model that fosters the
>>> underemployment of workers with disabilities. Section 14(c) was only to
>>> be used "to the extent necessary to prevent curtailment of
>>> opportunities" for employment of people with disabilities. Instead,
>>> subminimum-wage sheltered workshops have eroded into day custody
>>> centers, limiting opportunities for workers with disabilities ever to
>>> transition into integrated, competitive work. These institutions instill
>>> a philosophy of incapacity, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy
>>> resulting in long-term underemployment.
>>> The sheltered work system is a cash cow for the subminimum wage
>>> employer. Many employers insist that paying the minimum wage to disabled
>>> employees would result in lack of profitability and a reduction in their
>>> workforce, but most benefit from philanthropic donations, preferred
>>> status when bidding on federal contracts, and federal funding. Moreover,
>>> while their disabled workers receive subminimum wages that are
>>> subsidized by Social Security and public assistance, some workshop
>>> executives are earning salaries far above industry norms. The economics
>>> overwhelmingly favor subminimum wage employers, encouraging the
>>> perpetuation of subminimum wage employment and leaving workers with
>>> disabilities little to no choice for real employment.
>>> The Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act of 2011:
>>> Discontinues the practice of issuing special wage certificates. The
>>> secretary of labor will no longer issue special wage certificates to new
>>> applicants.
>>> Phases out all remaining special wage certificates over a 3-year period.
>>> Entities currently holding special wage certificates will begin
>>> compensating their workers with disabilities at no less than the federal
>>> minimum wage, using the following schedule:
>>> .
>>> private for-profit entities' certificates will be revoked after 1 year;
>>> .
>>> public or governmental entities' certificates will be revoked after 2
>>> years; and
>>> .
>>> non-profit entities' certificates will be revoked after 3 years.
>>> Repeals Section14(c) of the FLSA. Three years after the law is enacted,
>>> the practice of paying disabled workers subminimum wage will be
>>> officially abolished, and workers with disabilities will no longer be
>>> excluded from the workforce protection of a federal minimum wage.
>>> STOP THE DISCRIMINATION
>>> PROMOTE EQUAL WORK FOR EQUAL PAY
>>> Cosponsor the Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act
>>> H.R. 3086
>>> For more information contact:
>>> Anil Lewis, Director of Strategic Communications
>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>> Phone: (410) 659-9314, Extension 2374 E-mail: alewis at nfb.org
>>> To cosponsor the bill, contact:
>>> James Thomas in Congressman Cliff Stearns's office
>>> Phone: (202) 225-5744 E-mail: james.thomas at mail.house.gov
>>> -OR-
>>> Tim Powers in Congressman Tim Bishop's office
>>> Phone: (202) 225-3826 E-mail: tim.powers at mail.house.gov
>>> Voice of the Nation's Blind
>>> Now, when this was taken up at the ACB's convention, there was a "do not
>>> pass" recommendation. It went through. This made me very upset, and
>>> proves, that in my opinion, ACB does not care about the future of the
>>> BLIND. Therefore, I've decided to give the NFB another try, once I can
>>> afford to, I will pay my dues, to join NFB.
>>> Thanks for reading.
>>> Mike.
>>>
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