[nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the NFB, please read.

Michael Capelle michael.capelle at charter.net
Sun Jul 15 19:25:46 UTC 2012


also, not to mention, the ACB's convention, at least this year, is not 
very organized, what I liked about the NFB's conventions, is they are 
structured, and very organized.
On 7/15/2012 2:22 PM, Joshua Lester wrote:
> Roger:
> You don't have to attend conventions, to be a member.
> Just make donations, and support.
> BTW, the NFB is the voice of the nation's blind.
> We give free white canes to people, and if you need one, you can order
> one off of the site.
> You will also notice, that there is more emphasis on education, than
> what the other group offers.
> I've heard speeches by some of the other group's leaders, where
> they're rude and disrespectfull to the NFB, but I've never heard Dr
> Maurer say anything bad about the other group.
> Our conventions are more civil, than what I've heard, from the other group.
> I was almost sold on the ACB, several years ago, but I was smart
> enough to do my research.
> I almost fell for the accessible currency nonsense, until I saw the
> light, so to speak, and I knew, that the NFB was for me!
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 7/15/12, Roger devin Prater <r.d.t.prater at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hmm, well I would need to look into the process of joining. I may not be
>> able to come to many conventions and stuff but I'd join I guess. I just need
>>
>> to find out more about it and what it stands for and what all it offers.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gloria Whipple" <glowhi at centurylink.net>
>> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
>> NFB,please read.
>>
>>
>>> I hope you do! The nfb cares about their members. They are such good
>>> supporters when needed.
>>>
>>> Gloria Whipple
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Roger devin Prater
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 14:05
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
>>> NFB,
>>> please read.
>>>
>>> Well, I've also thought about joining the NFB, because they actually
>>> provide
>>>
>>> services like the NFB newsline and things like that, and I don't really
>>> know
>>>
>>> of any that the ACB provides besides their ACB radio thing.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
>>> NFB,
>>> please read.
>>>
>>>
>>> Glad to hear this!
>>> Welcome to the NFB!
>>> Another convert here!
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 7/15/12, Michael Capelle <michael.capelle at charter.net> wrote:
>>>> Hello.
>>>> This is going to be a long post, and a lot of heads will turn, I'm sure.
>>>> For many years, a lot of people will know, that I was heavilly involved
>>>> in the American Council of the Blind, (ACB). Well, this years convention
>>>> definitely decided for me, read on, and you will find out why. Now,
>>>> before I continue, I want everyone to remember, that I'm not trying to
>>>> bash ACB, just speaking my opinion. First of all, the biggest complaint
>>>> I had, was I felt the conference/convention was very disorganized. The
>>>> roll call of states, seemed very disorganized, and honestly, the "fat"
>>>> jokes were getting very old. Then, on monday, the door prize people were
>>>> not even ready, to hand out door prizes. I just felt it was not good as
>>>> in previous years. Now, on to the biggest complaint. as some of you
>>>> know, we are in the process of passing a bill, for the subminimum wages.
>>>> Basically, making it illegal to pay blind persons less money then their
>>>> sighted colleagues. The following information, below, is taken from the
>>>> publication. The NFB, (national Federation of the Blind) definitely
>>>> supports this, and so do I, again, see below.
>>>> Voice of the Nation's Blind
>>>> National Federation of the Blind Logo
>>>> Marc Maurer, President
>>>> 200 East Wells Street
>>>> at Jernigan Place
>>>> Baltimore, MD 21230
>>>> Phone 410 659 9314 Fax 410 685 5653
>>>> www.nfb.org
>>>> The Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act of 2011
>>>> H.R. 3086
>>>> Disabled workers have been unfairly excluded from the federal minimum
>>>> wage for 74 years, and today over 300,000 disabled workers are working
>>>> for subminimum wages.
>>>> Section 14(c) of the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) discriminates
>>>> against people with disabilities. This section allows the Secretary of
>>>> Labor to grant special wage certificates to employers, permitting them
>>>> to pay their workers with disabilities less than the minimum wage, often
>>>> in sheltered work environments. In some instances disabled workers are
>>>> being paid pennies per hour.
>>>> This discrimination is rooted in low expectations based on
>>>> misconceptions about the capabilities of disabled people. The law
>>>> falsely implies that people with disabilities cannot be productive
>>>> employees, and subminimum wage employers prey on society's misconception
>>>> that disabled people are incapable of being competitively employed. In
>>>> reality, when provided the proper rehabilitation training and tools,
>>>> workers with disabilities can be productive and financially independent.
>>>> Subminimum wage supports an outdated business model that fosters the
>>>> underemployment of workers with disabilities. Section 14(c) was only to
>>>> be used "to the extent necessary to prevent curtailment of
>>>> opportunities" for employment of people with disabilities. Instead,
>>>> subminimum-wage sheltered workshops have eroded into day custody
>>>> centers, limiting opportunities for workers with disabilities ever to
>>>> transition into integrated, competitive work. These institutions instill
>>>> a philosophy of incapacity, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy
>>>> resulting in long-term underemployment.
>>>> The sheltered work system is a cash cow for the subminimum wage
>>>> employer. Many employers insist that paying the minimum wage to disabled
>>>> employees would result in lack of profitability and a reduction in their
>>>> workforce, but most benefit from philanthropic donations, preferred
>>>> status when bidding on federal contracts, and federal funding. Moreover,
>>>> while their disabled workers receive subminimum wages that are
>>>> subsidized by Social Security and public assistance, some workshop
>>>> executives are earning salaries far above industry norms. The economics
>>>> overwhelmingly favor subminimum wage employers, encouraging the
>>>> perpetuation of subminimum wage employment and leaving workers with
>>>> disabilities little to no choice for real employment.
>>>> The Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act of 2011:
>>>> Discontinues the practice of issuing special wage certificates. The
>>>> secretary of labor will no longer issue special wage certificates to new
>>>> applicants.
>>>> Phases out all remaining special wage certificates over a 3-year period.
>>>> Entities currently holding special wage certificates will begin
>>>> compensating their workers with disabilities at no less than the federal
>>>> minimum wage, using the following schedule:
>>>> .
>>>> private for-profit entities' certificates will be revoked after 1 year;
>>>> .
>>>> public or governmental entities' certificates will be revoked after 2
>>>> years; and
>>>> .
>>>> non-profit entities' certificates will be revoked after 3 years.
>>>> Repeals Section14(c) of the FLSA. Three years after the law is enacted,
>>>> the practice of paying disabled workers subminimum wage will be
>>>> officially abolished, and workers with disabilities will no longer be
>>>> excluded from the workforce protection of a federal minimum wage.
>>>> STOP THE DISCRIMINATION
>>>> PROMOTE EQUAL WORK FOR EQUAL PAY
>>>> Cosponsor the Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act
>>>> H.R. 3086
>>>> For more information contact:
>>>> Anil Lewis, Director of Strategic Communications
>>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>>> Phone: (410) 659-9314, Extension 2374 E-mail: alewis at nfb.org
>>>> To cosponsor the bill, contact:
>>>> James Thomas in Congressman Cliff Stearns's office
>>>> Phone: (202) 225-5744 E-mail: james.thomas at mail.house.gov
>>>> -OR-
>>>> Tim Powers in Congressman Tim Bishop's office
>>>> Phone: (202) 225-3826 E-mail: tim.powers at mail.house.gov
>>>> Voice of the Nation's Blind
>>>> Now, when this was taken up at the ACB's convention, there was a "do not
>>>> pass" recommendation. It went through. This made me very upset, and
>>>> proves, that in my opinion, ACB does not care about the future of the
>>>> BLIND. Therefore, I've decided to give the NFB another try, once I can
>>>> afford to, I will pay my dues, to join NFB.
>>>> Thanks for reading.
>>>> Mike.
>>>>
>>>>
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