[nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the NFB, please read.

Roger devin Prater r.d.t.prater at gmail.com
Sun Jul 15 23:40:44 UTC 2012


Ah, thanks.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
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NFB,please read.


> Your state NFB president would be Joy Harris.
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Roger devin Prater
> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 3:53 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the NFB,
> please read.
>
> Hmm, I looked into the NFB local chapter thing, and discovered that the
> Alabama site is unavailable.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 1:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the NFB,
> please read.
>
>
>> I'm calling the national office, tomorrow, anyway.
>> I need to order some cane tips, so I'll bring it up!
>> Joe Ruffalo ought to get on this!
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 7/15/12, Gloria Whipple <glowhi at centurylink.net> wrote:
>>> Hi Joshua,
>>>
>>> I agree! I really think that is a very good idea!
>>>
>>> Gloria Whipple
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 13:26
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
>>> NFB, please read.
>>>
>>> Why can't the NFB take "Through Our Eyes," and turn it into KNFB Radio?
>>> The NFB needs its own radio station!
>>> Thanks, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 7/15/12, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
>>>> Not to mention which, the ACB complained when we set up our NFB
>>>> Newsline service.  Jallous maybe because we were the ones who did it.
>>>>
>>>> I might point out that we stream our national conventions now; and,
>>>> the stream actually works.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>
>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>>
>>>> Skype name:
>>>> barefootedray
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 15, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Roger devin Prater wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, I've also thought about joining the NFB, because they
>>>>> actually provide services like the NFB newsline and things like
>>>>> that, and I don't really know of any that the ACB provides besides
>>>>> their ACB radio thing.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Lester"
>>>>> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:00 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining
>>>>> the
>>> NFB,
>>>>> please read.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Glad to hear this!
>>>>> Welcome to the NFB!
>>>>> Another convert here!
>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/15/12, Michael Capelle <michael.capelle at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>> This is going to be a long post, and a lot of heads will turn, I'm
>>>>>> sure.
>>>>>> For many years, a lot of people will know, that I was heavilly
>>>>>> involved in the American Council of the Blind, (ACB). Well, this
>>>>>> years convention definitely decided for me, read on, and you will
>>>>>> find out why. Now, before I continue, I want everyone to remember,
>>>>>> that I'm not trying to bash ACB, just speaking my opinion. First
>>>>>> of all, the biggest complaint I had, was I felt the
>>>>>> conference/convention was very disorganized. The roll call of
>>>>>> states, seemed very disorganized, and honestly, the "fat"
>>>>>> jokes were getting very old. Then, on monday, the door prize
>>>>>> people were not even ready, to hand out door prizes. I just felt
>>>>>> it was not good as in previous years. Now, on to the biggest
>>>>>> complaint. as some of you know, we are in the process of passing a
>>>>>> bill, for the subminimum wages.
>>>>>> Basically, making it illegal to pay blind persons less money then
>>>>>> their sighted colleagues. The following information, below, is
>>>>>> taken from the publication. The NFB, (national Federation of the
>>>>>> Blind) definitely supports this, and so do I, again, see below.
>>>>>> Voice of the Nation's Blind
>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind Logo Marc Maurer, President
>>>>>> 200 East Wells Street
>>>>>> at Jernigan Place
>>>>>> Baltimore, MD 21230
>>>>>> Phone 410 659 9314 Fax 410 685 5653 www.nfb.org The Fair Wages for
>>>>>> Workers with Disabilities Act of 2011 H.R. 3086 Disabled workers
>>>>>> have been unfairly excluded from the federal minimum wage for 74
>>>>>> years, and today over 300,000 disabled workers are working for
>>>>>> subminimum wages.
>>>>>> Section 14(c) of the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) discriminates
>>>>>> against people with disabilities. This section allows the
>>>>>> Secretary of Labor to grant special wage certificates to
>>>>>> employers, permitting them to pay their workers with disabilities
>>>>>> less than the minimum wage, often in sheltered work environments.
>>>>>> In some instances disabled workers are being paid pennies per
>>>>>> hour.
>>>>>> This discrimination is rooted in low expectations based on
>>>>>> misconceptions about the capabilities of disabled people. The law
>>>>>> falsely implies that people with disabilities cannot be productive
>>>>>> employees, and subminimum wage employers prey on society's
>>>>>> misconception that disabled people are incapable of being
>>>>>> competitively employed. In reality, when provided the proper
>>>>>> rehabilitation training and tools, workers with disabilities can
>>>>>> be productive and financially independent.
>>>>>> Subminimum wage supports an outdated business model that fosters
>>>>>> the underemployment of workers with disabilities. Section 14(c)
>>>>>> was only to be used "to the extent necessary to prevent
>>>>>> curtailment of opportunities" for employment of people with
>>>>>> disabilities. Instead, subminimum-wage sheltered workshops have
>>>>>> eroded into day custody centers, limiting opportunities for
>>>>>> workers with disabilities ever to transition into integrated,
>>>>>> competitive work. These institutions instill a philosophy of
>>>>>> incapacity, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy resulting in
>>>>>> long-term underemployment.
>>>>>> The sheltered work system is a cash cow for the subminimum wage
>>>>>> employer. Many employers insist that paying the minimum wage to
>>>>>> disabled employees would result in lack of profitability and a
>>>>>> reduction in their workforce, but most benefit from philanthropic
>>>>>> donations, preferred status when bidding on federal contracts, and
>>>>>> federal funding.
>>>>>> Moreover,
>>>>>> while their disabled workers receive subminimum wages that are
>>>>>> subsidized by Social Security and public assistance, some workshop
>>>>>> executives are earning salaries far above industry norms. The
>>>>>> economics overwhelmingly favor subminimum wage employers,
>>>>>> encouraging the perpetuation of subminimum wage employment and
>>>>>> leaving workers with disabilities little to no choice for real
>>>>>> employment.
>>>>>> The Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act of 2011:
>>>>>> Discontinues the practice of issuing special wage certificates.
>>>>>> The secretary of labor will no longer issue special wage
>>>>>> certificates to new applicants.
>>>>>> Phases out all remaining special wage certificates over a 3-year
>>>>>> period.
>>>>>> Entities currently holding special wage certificates will begin
>>>>>> compensating their workers with disabilities at no less than the
>>>>>> federal minimum wage, using the following schedule:
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> private for-profit entities' certificates will be revoked after 1
>>>>>> year; .
>>>>>> public or governmental entities' certificates will be revoked
>>>>>> after 2 years; and .
>>>>>> non-profit entities' certificates will be revoked after 3 years.
>>>>>> Repeals Section14(c) of the FLSA. Three years after the law is
>>>>>> enacted, the practice of paying disabled workers subminimum wage
>>>>>> will be officially abolished, and workers with disabilities will
>>>>>> no longer be excluded from the workforce protection of a federal
>>>>>> minimum wage.
>>>>>> STOP THE DISCRIMINATION
>>>>>> PROMOTE EQUAL WORK FOR EQUAL PAY
>>>>>> Cosponsor the Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act H.R.
>>>>>> 3086 For more information contact:
>>>>>> Anil Lewis, Director of Strategic Communications National
>>>>>> Federation of the Blind
>>>>>> Phone: (410) 659-9314, Extension 2374 E-mail: alewis at nfb.org To
>>>>>> cosponsor the bill, contact:
>>>>>> James Thomas in Congressman Cliff Stearns's office
>>>>>> Phone: (202) 225-5744 E-mail: james.thomas at mail.house.gov
>>>>>> -OR-
>>>>>> Tim Powers in Congressman Tim Bishop's office
>>>>>> Phone: (202) 225-3826 E-mail: tim.powers at mail.house.gov Voice of
>>>>>> the Nation's Blind Now, when this was taken up at the ACB's
>>>>>> convention, there was a "do not pass" recommendation. It went
>>>>>> through. This made me very upset, and proves, that in my opinion,
>>>>>> ACB does not care about the future of the BLIND. Therefore, I've
>>>>>> decided to give the NFB another try, once I can afford to, I will
>>>>>> pay my dues, to join NFB.
>>>>>> Thanks for reading.
>>>>>> Mike.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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