[nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the NFB, please read.

David Andrews dandrews at visi.com
Mon Jul 16 00:32:48 UTC 2012


Alabama also has a list on nfbnet.org although it isn't that 
active.  The address to join is:

http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/4alabama_nfbnet.org

Dave

At 04:28 PM 7/15/2012, you wrote:
>Your state NFB president would be Joy Harris.
>
>Mike
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Roger devin Prater
>Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 3:53 PM
>To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the NFB,
>please read.
>
>Hmm, I looked into the NFB local chapter thing, and discovered that the
>Alabama site is unavailable.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 1:46 PM
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the NFB,
>please read.
>
>
> > I'm calling the national office, tomorrow, anyway.
> > I need to order some cane tips, so I'll bring it up!
> > Joe Ruffalo ought to get on this!
> > Blessings, Joshua
> >
> > On 7/15/12, Gloria Whipple <glowhi at centurylink.net> wrote:
> >> Hi Joshua,
> >>
> >> I agree! I really think that is a very good idea!
> >>
> >> Gloria Whipple
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
> >> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 13:26
> >> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
> >> NFB, please read.
> >>
> >> Why can't the NFB take "Through Our Eyes," and turn it into KNFB Radio?
> >> The NFB needs its own radio station!
> >> Thanks, Joshua
> >>
> >> On 7/15/12, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
> >>> Not to mention which, the ACB complained when we set up our NFB
> >>> Newsline service.  Jallous maybe because we were the ones who did it.
> >>>
> >>> I might point out that we stream our national conventions now; and,
> >>> the stream actually works.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> >>>
> >>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> >>>
> >>> Skype name:
> >>> barefootedray
> >>>
> >>> On Jul 15, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Roger devin Prater wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Well, I've also thought about joining the NFB, because they
> >>>> actually provide services like the NFB newsline and things like
> >>>> that, and I don't really know of any that the ACB provides besides
> >>>> their ACB radio thing.
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Lester"
> >>>> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> >>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:00 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining
> >>>> the
> >> NFB,
> >>>> please read.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Glad to hear this!
> >>>> Welcome to the NFB!
> >>>> Another convert here!
> >>>> Blessings, Joshua
> >>>>
> >>>> On 7/15/12, Michael Capelle <michael.capelle at charter.net> wrote:
> >>>>> Hello.
> >>>>> This is going to be a long post, and a lot of heads will turn, I'm
> >>>>> sure.
> >>>>> For many years, a lot of people will know, that I was heavilly
> >>>>> involved in the American Council of the Blind, (ACB). Well, this
> >>>>> years convention definitely decided for me, read on, and you will
> >>>>> find out why. Now, before I continue, I want everyone to remember,
> >>>>> that I'm not trying to bash ACB, just speaking my opinion. First
> >>>>> of all, the biggest complaint I had, was I felt the
> >>>>> conference/convention was very disorganized. The roll call of
> >>>>> states, seemed very disorganized, and honestly, the "fat"
> >>>>> jokes were getting very old. Then, on monday, the door prize
> >>>>> people were not even ready, to hand out door prizes. I just felt
> >>>>> it was not good as in previous years. Now, on to the biggest
> >>>>> complaint. as some of you know, we are in the process of passing a
> >>>>> bill, for the subminimum wages.
> >>>>> Basically, making it illegal to pay blind persons less money then
> >>>>> their sighted colleagues. The following information, below, is
> >>>>> taken from the publication. The NFB, (national Federation of the
> >>>>> Blind) definitely supports this, and so do I, again, see below.
> >>>>> Voice of the Nation's Blind
> >>>>> National Federation of the Blind Logo Marc Maurer, President
> >>>>> 200 East Wells Street
> >>>>> at Jernigan Place
> >>>>> Baltimore, MD 21230
> >>>>> Phone 410 659 9314 Fax 410 685 5653 www.nfb.org The Fair Wages for
> >>>>> Workers with Disabilities Act of 2011 H.R. 3086 Disabled workers
> >>>>> have been unfairly excluded from the federal minimum wage for 74
> >>>>> years, and today over 300,000 disabled workers are working for
> >>>>> subminimum wages.
> >>>>> Section 14(c) of the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) discriminates
> >>>>> against people with disabilities. This section allows the
> >>>>> Secretary of Labor to grant special wage certificates to
> >>>>> employers, permitting them to pay their workers with disabilities
> >>>>> less than the minimum wage, often in sheltered work environments.
> >>>>> In some instances disabled workers are being paid pennies per
> >>>>> hour.
> >>>>> This discrimination is rooted in low expectations based on
> >>>>> misconceptions about the capabilities of disabled people. The law
> >>>>> falsely implies that people with disabilities cannot be productive
> >>>>> employees, and subminimum wage employers prey on society's
> >>>>> misconception that disabled people are incapable of being
> >>>>> competitively employed. In reality, when provided the proper
> >>>>> rehabilitation training and tools, workers with disabilities can
> >>>>> be productive and financially independent.
> >>>>> Subminimum wage supports an outdated business model that fosters
> >>>>> the underemployment of workers with disabilities. Section 14(c)
> >>>>> was only to be used "to the extent necessary to prevent
> >>>>> curtailment of opportunities" for employment of people with
> >>>>> disabilities. Instead, subminimum-wage sheltered workshops have
> >>>>> eroded into day custody centers, limiting opportunities for
> >>>>> workers with disabilities ever to transition into integrated,
> >>>>> competitive work. These institutions instill a philosophy of
> >>>>> incapacity, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy resulting in
> >>>>> long-term underemployment.
> >>>>> The sheltered work system is a cash cow for the subminimum wage
> >>>>> employer. Many employers insist that paying the minimum wage to
> >>>>> disabled employees would result in lack of profitability and a
> >>>>> reduction in their workforce, but most benefit from philanthropic
> >>>>> donations, preferred status when bidding on federal contracts, and
> >>>>> federal funding.
> >>>>> Moreover,
> >>>>> while their disabled workers receive subminimum wages that are
> >>>>> subsidized by Social Security and public assistance, some workshop
> >>>>> executives are earning salaries far above industry norms. The
> >>>>> economics overwhelmingly favor subminimum wage employers,
> >>>>> encouraging the perpetuation of subminimum wage employment and
> >>>>> leaving workers with disabilities little to no choice for real
> >>>>> employment.
> >>>>> The Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act of 2011:
> >>>>> Discontinues the practice of issuing special wage certificates.
> >>>>> The secretary of labor will no longer issue special wage
> >>>>> certificates to new applicants.
> >>>>> Phases out all remaining special wage certificates over a 3-year
> >>>>> period.
> >>>>> Entities currently holding special wage certificates will begin
> >>>>> compensating their workers with disabilities at no less than the
> >>>>> federal minimum wage, using the following schedule:
> >>>>> .
> >>>>> private for-profit entities' certificates will be revoked after 1
> >>>>> year; .
> >>>>> public or governmental entities' certificates will be revoked
> >>>>> after 2 years; and .
> >>>>> non-profit entities' certificates will be revoked after 3 years.
> >>>>> Repeals Section14(c) of the FLSA. Three years after the law is
> >>>>> enacted, the practice of paying disabled workers subminimum wage
> >>>>> will be officially abolished, and workers with disabilities will
> >>>>> no longer be excluded from the workforce protection of a federal
> >>>>> minimum wage.
> >>>>> STOP THE DISCRIMINATION
> >>>>> PROMOTE EQUAL WORK FOR EQUAL PAY
> >>>>> Cosponsor the Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act H.R.
> >>>>> 3086 For more information contact:
> >>>>> Anil Lewis, Director of Strategic Communications National
> >>>>> Federation of the Blind
> >>>>> Phone: (410) 659-9314, Extension 2374 E-mail: alewis at nfb.org To
> >>>>> cosponsor the bill, contact:
> >>>>> James Thomas in Congressman Cliff Stearns's office
> >>>>> Phone: (202) 225-5744 E-mail: james.thomas at mail.house.gov
> >>>>> -OR-
> >>>>> Tim Powers in Congressman Tim Bishop's office
> >>>>> Phone: (202) 225-3826 E-mail: tim.powers at mail.house.gov Voice of
> >>>>> the Nation's Blind Now, when this was taken up at the ACB's
> >>>>> convention, there was a "do not pass" recommendation. It went
> >>>>> through. This made me very upset, and proves, that in my opinion,
> >>>>> ACB does not care about the future of the BLIND. Therefore, I've
> >>>>> decided to give the NFB another try, once I can afford to, I will
> >>>>> pay my dues, to join NFB.
> >>>>> Thanks for reading.
> >>>>> Mike.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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