[nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the NFB, please read.

Mon Jul 16 00:44:12 UTC 2012

Welcome to the NFB, Michael.  We welcome you here with us.

margo and Arrow
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the NFB, 
please read.

> Alabama also has a list on nfbnet.org although it isn't that active.  The 
> address to join is:
>
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/4alabama_nfbnet.org
>
> Dave
>
> At 04:28 PM 7/15/2012, you wrote:
>>Your state NFB president would be Joy Harris.
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>Behalf Of Roger devin Prater
>>Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 3:53 PM
>>To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the NFB,
>>please read.
>>
>>Hmm, I looked into the NFB local chapter thing, and discovered that the
>>Alabama site is unavailable.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 1:46 PM
>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the NFB,
>>please read.
>>
>>
>> > I'm calling the national office, tomorrow, anyway.
>> > I need to order some cane tips, so I'll bring it up!
>> > Joe Ruffalo ought to get on this!
>> > Blessings, Joshua
>> >
>> > On 7/15/12, Gloria Whipple <glowhi at centurylink.net> wrote:
>> >> Hi Joshua,
>> >>
>> >> I agree! I really think that is a very good idea!
>> >>
>> >> Gloria Whipple
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> >> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>> >> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 13:26
>> >> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> >> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
>> >> NFB, please read.
>> >>
>> >> Why can't the NFB take "Through Our Eyes," and turn it into KNFB 
>> >> Radio?
>> >> The NFB needs its own radio station!
>> >> Thanks, Joshua
>> >>
>> >> On 7/15/12, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
>> >>> Not to mention which, the ACB complained when we set up our NFB
>> >>> Newsline service.  Jallous maybe because we were the ones who did it.
>> >>>
>> >>> I might point out that we stream our national conventions now; and,
>> >>> the stream actually works.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Sincerely,
>> >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> >>>
>> >>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> >>>
>> >>> Skype name:
>> >>> barefootedray
>> >>>
>> >>> On Jul 15, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Roger devin Prater wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Well, I've also thought about joining the NFB, because they
>> >>>> actually provide services like the NFB newsline and things like
>> >>>> that, and I don't really know of any that the ACB provides besides
>> >>>> their ACB radio thing.
>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Lester"
>> >>>> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> >>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:00 PM
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining
>> >>>> the
>> >> NFB,
>> >>>> please read.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Glad to hear this!
>> >>>> Welcome to the NFB!
>> >>>> Another convert here!
>> >>>> Blessings, Joshua
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 7/15/12, Michael Capelle <michael.capelle at charter.net> wrote:
>> >>>>> Hello.
>> >>>>> This is going to be a long post, and a lot of heads will turn, I'm
>> >>>>> sure.
>> >>>>> For many years, a lot of people will know, that I was heavilly
>> >>>>> involved in the American Council of the Blind, (ACB). Well, this
>> >>>>> years convention definitely decided for me, read on, and you will
>> >>>>> find out why. Now, before I continue, I want everyone to remember,
>> >>>>> that I'm not trying to bash ACB, just speaking my opinion. First
>> >>>>> of all, the biggest complaint I had, was I felt the
>> >>>>> conference/convention was very disorganized. The roll call of
>> >>>>> states, seemed very disorganized, and honestly, the "fat"
>> >>>>> jokes were getting very old. Then, on monday, the door prize
>> >>>>> people were not even ready, to hand out door prizes. I just felt
>> >>>>> it was not good as in previous years. Now, on to the biggest
>> >>>>> complaint. as some of you know, we are in the process of passing a
>> >>>>> bill, for the subminimum wages.
>> >>>>> Basically, making it illegal to pay blind persons less money then
>> >>>>> their sighted colleagues. The following information, below, is
>> >>>>> taken from the publication. The NFB, (national Federation of the
>> >>>>> Blind) definitely supports this, and so do I, again, see below.
>> >>>>> Voice of the Nation's Blind
>> >>>>> National Federation of the Blind Logo Marc Maurer, President
>> >>>>> 200 East Wells Street
>> >>>>> at Jernigan Place
>> >>>>> Baltimore, MD 21230
>> >>>>> Phone 410 659 9314 Fax 410 685 5653 www.nfb.org The Fair Wages for
>> >>>>> Workers with Disabilities Act of 2011 H.R. 3086 Disabled workers
>> >>>>> have been unfairly excluded from the federal minimum wage for 74
>> >>>>> years, and today over 300,000 disabled workers are working for
>> >>>>> subminimum wages.
>> >>>>> Section 14(c) of the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) discriminates
>> >>>>> against people with disabilities. This section allows the
>> >>>>> Secretary of Labor to grant special wage certificates to
>> >>>>> employers, permitting them to pay their workers with disabilities
>> >>>>> less than the minimum wage, often in sheltered work environments.
>> >>>>> In some instances disabled workers are being paid pennies per
>> >>>>> hour.
>> >>>>> This discrimination is rooted in low expectations based on
>> >>>>> misconceptions about the capabilities of disabled people. The law
>> >>>>> falsely implies that people with disabilities cannot be productive
>> >>>>> employees, and subminimum wage employers prey on society's
>> >>>>> misconception that disabled people are incapable of being
>> >>>>> competitively employed. In reality, when provided the proper
>> >>>>> rehabilitation training and tools, workers with disabilities can
>> >>>>> be productive and financially independent.
>> >>>>> Subminimum wage supports an outdated business model that fosters
>> >>>>> the underemployment of workers with disabilities. Section 14(c)
>> >>>>> was only to be used "to the extent necessary to prevent
>> >>>>> curtailment of opportunities" for employment of people with
>> >>>>> disabilities. Instead, subminimum-wage sheltered workshops have
>> >>>>> eroded into day custody centers, limiting opportunities for
>> >>>>> workers with disabilities ever to transition into integrated,
>> >>>>> competitive work. These institutions instill a philosophy of
>> >>>>> incapacity, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy resulting in
>> >>>>> long-term underemployment.
>> >>>>> The sheltered work system is a cash cow for the subminimum wage
>> >>>>> employer. Many employers insist that paying the minimum wage to
>> >>>>> disabled employees would result in lack of profitability and a
>> >>>>> reduction in their workforce, but most benefit from philanthropic
>> >>>>> donations, preferred status when bidding on federal contracts, and
>> >>>>> federal funding.
>> >>>>> Moreover,
>> >>>>> while their disabled workers receive subminimum wages that are
>> >>>>> subsidized by Social Security and public assistance, some workshop
>> >>>>> executives are earning salaries far above industry norms. The
>> >>>>> economics overwhelmingly favor subminimum wage employers,
>> >>>>> encouraging the perpetuation of subminimum wage employment and
>> >>>>> leaving workers with disabilities little to no choice for real
>> >>>>> employment.
>> >>>>> The Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act of 2011:
>> >>>>> Discontinues the practice of issuing special wage certificates.
>> >>>>> The secretary of labor will no longer issue special wage
>> >>>>> certificates to new applicants.
>> >>>>> Phases out all remaining special wage certificates over a 3-year
>> >>>>> period.
>> >>>>> Entities currently holding special wage certificates will begin
>> >>>>> compensating their workers with disabilities at no less than the
>> >>>>> federal minimum wage, using the following schedule:
>> >>>>> .
>> >>>>> private for-profit entities' certificates will be revoked after 1
>> >>>>> year; .
>> >>>>> public or governmental entities' certificates will be revoked
>> >>>>> after 2 years; and .
>> >>>>> non-profit entities' certificates will be revoked after 3 years.
>> >>>>> Repeals Section14(c) of the FLSA. Three years after the law is
>> >>>>> enacted, the practice of paying disabled workers subminimum wage
>> >>>>> will be officially abolished, and workers with disabilities will
>> >>>>> no longer be excluded from the workforce protection of a federal
>> >>>>> minimum wage.
>> >>>>> STOP THE DISCRIMINATION
>> >>>>> PROMOTE EQUAL WORK FOR EQUAL PAY
>> >>>>> Cosponsor the Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act H.R.
>> >>>>> 3086 For more information contact:
>> >>>>> Anil Lewis, Director of Strategic Communications National
>> >>>>> Federation of the Blind
>> >>>>> Phone: (410) 659-9314, Extension 2374 E-mail: alewis at nfb.org To
>> >>>>> cosponsor the bill, contact:
>> >>>>> James Thomas in Congressman Cliff Stearns's office
>> >>>>> Phone: (202) 225-5744 E-mail: james.thomas at mail.house.gov
>> >>>>> -OR-
>> >>>>> Tim Powers in Congressman Tim Bishop's office
>> >>>>> Phone: (202) 225-3826 E-mail: tim.powers at mail.house.gov Voice of
>> >>>>> the Nation's Blind Now, when this was taken up at the ACB's
>> >>>>> convention, there was a "do not pass" recommendation. It went
>> >>>>> through. This made me very upset, and proves, that in my opinion,
>> >>>>> ACB does not care about the future of the BLIND. Therefore, I've
>> >>>>> decided to give the NFB another try, once I can afford to, I will
>> >>>>> pay my dues, to join NFB.
>> >>>>> Thanks for reading.
>> >>>>> Mike.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
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