[nfb-talk] Stupidity running amuck on the Colbert Report!

[Michael Hingson]

Oh it can be discussed, but emotion needs to go away.

I am not sure why there need be two camps anyway.  Dogs and canes both work,
just like PCs and MACs.  Which computer is better?  That debate will exist
for a long time, unless a quantum computer comes along.  The fact is both
work and it is a matter of choice, preference, and practicality.

People need to get over the debate. 


Best,


Michael Hingson

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Amen, amen, amen! Steve Jacobson and I have reached the conclusion that the
subject cannot be discussed logically by members of either camp.

Mike Freeman


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Mike and Gary,

I tell y'all what, you've got more patience than I do. On both sides o this
issue. I'm about fed up with the "guide dogs are superior" "canes are
superior" argument. I'm just out of patience with the whole blasted thing. 
--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY



On Nov 17, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Larry D. Keeler <lkeeler at comcast.net> wrote:

> Joshua, I respectfully disagree! I use both cane and dog. It is still 
> our
responsibility to know where we are going and to know what obstructions our
dogs find. It can make some things easier but doesn't take away any
independence!
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Lester" 
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> 
>> We've discussed this on another list!
>> You're more independent with a cane, because you're responsible for
finding clues, and things like that, but when you have a dog, you're
depending on the dog's sight, to get you where you need to go.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>> ________________________________________
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>> Salcido [rednexican at socal.rr.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 10:10 AM
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>> Preferably a cane?  According to whose preference and why should it 
>> matter to you whether someone uses a dog or a cane to get around
independently?
>> Isn't it enough that said hypothetical person travels about?
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:17 PM
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>> 
>> Correct!
>> I'm proud of Mr. Carter's responses about it, but I want to know, as 
>> I posted before, why doesn't he use a cane or a dog?
>> All of the blind boys are putting their hands on the shoulders of the 
>> sighted guys in the band, so they can be led on stage!
>> #1, that's empropper sighted guide, and #2, they need to use a cane, 
>> or a dog, but preferably a cane, to get around!
>> Blessings, Joshua
>> ________________________________________
>> From: nfb-talk [nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Mark Tardif 
>> [markspark at roadrunner.com]
>> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 4:46 PM
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>> All I will say is that racism should be considered ridiculous and 
>> stupid regardless of whether one is blind or dighted.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mark Tardif
>> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 3:13 PM
>> To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Stupidity running amuck on the Colbert Report!
>> 
>> Two nights ago, my friends, the Blind Boys of Alabama were guests on 
>> Stephen Colbert's show on Commedy Central.
>> Colbert had the nerve to ask Jimmy Carter, (the leader of the group,) 
>> a stupid question.
>> "As a blind person, does racism seem ridiculous to you, since you 
>> can't tell what race somebody is?"
>> What's next?
>> Not only is the question offensive from a racial standpoint, but it's 
>> offensive from the blindness perspective!
>> I would have asked to have my group removed from the show, but Jimmy 
>> educated Mr. Colbert, and handled it with grace!
>> There's a link to this ignorance on the group's Twitter page.
>> http://www.twitter.com/blindboys
>> Blessings, Joshua
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