[nfb-talk] Stupidity running amuck on the Colbert Report!

[Mike Freeman]

It's simple: those who love animals cannot admit that they might have
drawbacks as well as benefits; those who are not into animals can't see why
anyone would want to be intimately associated with one. Given this
intellectual disconnect, it's impossible to discuss the subject without
emotion.

Mike Freeman


-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael
Hingson
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 3:27 PM
To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Stupidity running amuck on the Colbert Report!

Oh it can be discussed, but emotion needs to go away.

I am not sure why there need be two camps anyway.  Dogs and canes both work,
just like PCs and MACs.  Which computer is better?  That debate will exist
for a long time, unless a quantum computer comes along.  The fact is both
work and it is a matter of choice, preference, and practicality.

People need to get over the debate. 


Best,


Michael Hingson

-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike
Freeman
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 03:20 PM
To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Stupidity running amuck on the Colbert Report!

Amen, amen, amen! Steve Jacobson and I have reached the conclusion that the
subject cannot be discussed logically by members of either camp.

Mike Freeman


-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Buddy
Brannan
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:44 AM
To: NFB Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Stupidity running amuck on the Colbert Report!

Mike and Gary,

I tell y'all what, you've got more patience than I do. On both sides o this
issue. I'm about fed up with the "guide dogs are superior" "canes are
superior" argument. I'm just out of patience with the whole blasted thing. 
--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY



On Nov 17, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Larry D. Keeler <lkeeler at comcast.net> wrote:

> Joshua, I respectfully disagree! I use both cane and dog. It is still 
> our
responsibility to know where we are going and to know what obstructions our
dogs find. It can make some things easier but doesn't take away any
independence!
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Lester" 
> <JLester8462 at pccua.edu>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 1:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Stupidity running amuck on the Colbert Report!
> 
> 
>> We've discussed this on another list!
>> You're more independent with a cane, because you're responsible for
finding clues, and things like that, but when you have a dog, you're
depending on the dog's sight, to get you where you need to go.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>> ________________________________________
>> From: nfb-talk [nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Eddie 
>> Salcido [rednexican at socal.rr.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 10:10 AM
>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Stupidity running amuck on the Colbert Report!
>> 
>> Preferably a cane?  According to whose preference and why should it 
>> matter to you whether someone uses a dog or a cane to get around
independently?
>> Isn't it enough that said hypothetical person travels about?
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:17 PM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Stupidity running amuck on the Colbert Report!
>> 
>> Correct!
>> I'm proud of Mr. Carter's responses about it, but I want to know, as 
>> I posted before, why doesn't he use a cane or a dog?
>> All of the blind boys are putting their hands on the shoulders of the 
>> sighted guys in the band, so they can be led on stage!
>> #1, that's empropper sighted guide, and #2, they need to use a cane, 
>> or a dog, but preferably a cane, to get around!
>> Blessings, Joshua
>> ________________________________________
>> From: nfb-talk [nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Mark Tardif 
>> [markspark at roadrunner.com]
>> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 4:46 PM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Stupidity running amuck on the Colbert Report!
>> 
>> All I will say is that racism should be considered ridiculous and 
>> stupid regardless of whether one is blind or dighted.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mark Tardif
>> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 3:13 PM
>> To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Stupidity running amuck on the Colbert Report!
>> 
>> Two nights ago, my friends, the Blind Boys of Alabama were guests on 
>> Stephen Colbert's show on Commedy Central.
>> Colbert had the nerve to ask Jimmy Carter, (the leader of the group,) 
>> a stupid question.
>> "As a blind person, does racism seem ridiculous to you, since you 
>> can't tell what race somebody is?"
>> What's next?
>> Not only is the question offensive from a racial standpoint, but it's 
>> offensive from the blindness perspective!
>> I would have asked to have my group removed from the show, but Jimmy 
>> educated Mr. Colbert, and handled it with grace!
>> There's a link to this ignorance on the group's Twitter page.
>> http://www.twitter.com/blindboys
>> Blessings, Joshua
>> _______________________________________________
>> nfb-talk mailing list
>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> nfb-talk:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/markspark%40roa
>> drunner
>> .com
>> 
>> 
>> -----
>> No virus found in this message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> Version: 2013.0.3426 / Virus Database: 3629/6838 - Release Date: 
>> 11/15/13
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> nfb-talk mailing list
>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> nfb-talk:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40p
>> ccua.ed
>> u
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> nfb-talk mailing list
>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> nfb-talk:
>>
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/rednexican%40socal.rr.
>> com
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> nfb-talk mailing list
>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
nfb-talk:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40p
>> ccua.edu
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> nfb-talk mailing list
>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
nfb-talk:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/lkeeler%40comca
>> st.net
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nfb-talk mailing list
> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
nfb-talk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/buddy%40brannan.
> name


_______________________________________________
nfb-talk mailing list
nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
nfb-talk:
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/k7uij%40panix.com


_______________________________________________
nfb-talk mailing list
nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
nfb-talk:
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/info%40michaelhingson.
com


_______________________________________________
nfb-talk mailing list
nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
nfb-talk:
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/k7uij%40panix.com