[nfb-talk] a sincere appology, and a possible discrimination case.

Sun Aug 17 19:08:41 UTC 2014

Actually, Josh has the wrong address for Scott. It is:

slabarre at labarrelaw.com

and before I contacted Scott, I'd get in contact with your affiliate
president so s/he knows what's going on.

With respect, it is my view that this sort of problem is better dealt with
-- initially, at least -- by a bit of discussion, mediation and negotiation
than with a threat of lawsuit, especially as the regulations aren't exactly
models of clarity insofar as exactly what accommodations a person with a
disability is entitled to in grocery stores under what circumstances.

Again, it is my view that the simplest way to solve this is not with
confrontation or even negotiation but, rather, to just bring a friend and
buy the items you want. This should not be an onerous burden to the friend
if, as you say, Michael, there are only a few items to purchase.

Sometimes the best course in getting something done as a blind person is to
just be a bit inventive rather than trying to always reform the world!

Mike Freeman

-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael
Capelle via nfb-talk
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 11:57 AM
To: RJ Sandefur; josh lester; NFB Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] a sincere appology, and a possible discrimination
case.

a lot of things, will write later.

-----Original Message-----
From: RJ Sandefur via nfb-talk
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 1:56 PM
To: josh lester ; NFB Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] a sincere appology,and a possible discrimination
case.

Michael, What made you switch? Please write me off list.
joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "josh lester via nfb-talk" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "Michael Capelle" <mcapelle at charter.net>; "NFB Talk Mailing List"
<nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] a sincere appology,and a possible discrimination
case.

> Michael!
> Welcome aboard!
> I tried to tell you a long time ago, that the ACB only does for
> themselves, and that they don't support our rights!
> You have a case for discrimination, so you need to contact Scott LaBarre.
> scott at labarrelaw.com
> Again, welcome aboard.
>
> On 8/17/14, Michael Capelle via nfb-talk <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hello NFB!
>> I am coming to you to first of all, appologize for my bitterness.  For 
>> those
>>
>> who know me, I was very bitter about the NFB and its practices.  After 
>> this
>>
>> weekend, and my experience with another organization, I realize, that nfb

>> is
>>
>> where I belong.
>> Please see the following incident that did happen to me this past week.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hello all.
>>> I would like to discuss an incident which occured this past wednesday.
>>> I called a local grocery store, crossroads county market at or about 
>>> 3:00
>>> A.M. I spoke to a gentleman, curtus, and asked if I could obtain 
>>> shoppers
>>> assistance in an hour, as I am totally blind, and just needed a few
>>> items.
>>> He said that he would assist me, and to come on in.  I called metro cab,
>>> and was transported to the store.  When I arived, curtus was at the
>>> counter, and stated to the manager, ryan, that I was here, and he was
>>> going to help me shop.  Ryan immediately stopped him, and told him that 
>>> I
>>> needed to bring in an assistant.  I immediately told him, that I don't
>>> just have assistance, and that they had helped me shop in the past.  He
>>> said yes we do have people that help us, and that if i can't bring in an
>>> assistant to arange one for later in the day.  I told him impossible, 
>>> and
>>> he stated that he has handicapped friends who bring in assistance all 
>>> the
>>> time.   I told him, that I am not his handicapped friends, and restated
>>> that they have helped me in the past, again, he said, his manager, ryan
>>> aiers told him that they are not to help us, and that we needed
>>> assistance.  I was outraged, and proceeded to call the Wausau police
>>> department.  After officers arived, and spoke to ryan, he told them that
>>> they are understaffed, and they again can not help me.
>>> The officers were very kind, and offered me a ride home.  Ryan told the
>>> officers that I was still allowed in the store, as long as I brought an
>>> assistant.
>>> Under the ADA, I believe there are clauses that protect our rights, and
>>> outline certain things a store must provide to blind persons?
>>> Do I have a case in regards to discrimination?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Mike.
>> After posting this to the ACB lists, a lot of people supported my side,
>> while the majority said I deserved it, that I should of prepared better, 
>> a
>> lot of people over there were just very rude, and really offended me.
>> I felt they just stood on the side-lines, I know the NFB stands up for 
>> what
>>
>> we believe, and that is what I am looking for in an organized movement.
>> Thanks,
>> Mike.
>>
>>
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> -- 
> Joshua Lester
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