[nfb-talk] A little concerned about this new drug aimedat totally blind population

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Sun Feb 2 02:21:10 UTC 2014


Well Mike, there pineal glands probably withered away. Actually, old Isaac 
was a biochemist when he wrote that thing and in the 50's they really didn't 
have any clue what the pineal was for!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
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Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] A little concerned about this new drug aimedat 
totally blind population


> For SF fans, I wonder how the humanoids in Isaac Asimov's famous story
> "nightfall" did viz. non-24? You will remember that they lived on the 
> planet
> Kalgash in whose skies six suns shown such that there was true darkness 
> only
> once every two thousand (or was it six thousand) years.
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Karen 
> Rose
> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 4:22 PM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Cc: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] A little concerned about this new drug aimed at
> totally blind population
>
> Have you seen any studies that attempt to understand why some totally 
> blind
> people have this condition and others do not. I have been totally blind
> since birth and have never had any problem whatsoever sleeping. Smile.
> However I have eight fully cited client who seems to exhibit all of the 
> sock
> of this condition. Karen
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 1, 2014, at 4:01 PM, Michael Bullis <bullis.michael at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I have been following the studies on this subject for almost 40 years
>> now. It is a real and valid problem for some people who have little or
>> no light perception. There have been many studies and much validation.
>> Although I think the advertisements are a bit stupid, the problem they
>> are trying to solve, and it would appear, that the drug they're trying
>> to use, does work.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Feb 1, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Steve:
>>>
>>> Obviously, I agree with you on all counts.
>>>
>>> In addition, while at the national Center, I heard a number of ads
>>> pushing hetlioz and I found it amusing that they start out with a
>>> supposedly blind person saying: "You can't see me because this is
>>> radio. I can't see you because I'm totally blind." AS if he wasn't also
> on the radio!
>>>
>>> While not denying that some may find the drug helpful, I must say
>>> that, like you, I do not think nearly enough work has been done using
>>> controls and I'd bet good money that no pluscebo-controlled,
>>> double-blind studies have been done.
>>>
>>> Mike Freeman
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Steve Jacobson
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 2:24 PM
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] A little concerned about this new drug aimed
>>> at totally blind population
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have also been uneasy about all of this, but I recognize I don't
>>> know all there is to know about all this.  Because One is blind and
>>> doesn't seem to
>
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