[nfb-talk] [NFB-talk] Fwd: {Single Payer} Disabled protesters dragged from McConnell's office! So where our blind organizations?

[Karen Rose]

So far it appears that Republican politicians would like to end Obama care and take away the ability to see a doctor for 23 million Americans. This will involve a great many deaths. Is this what we want? I don't

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> On Jun 25, 2017, at 11:07 PM, Maria via nfb-talk <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Obama care is dying, so something needs to be done.  If there isn't any new
> proposals then millions of Americans will be left out in the cold.  Whether
> we like it or not things cannot continue as is because Obama care is
> collapsing and it needs to be replaced.  This  means that the government
> needs to work together to come up with something that is in the best
> interest of all Americans. instead of all this fear mongering and division
> they need to come  together and find solutions.
> 
> 
> 
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> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Karen Rose
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> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Fwd: {Single Payer} Disabled protesters dragged from
> McConnell's office! So where our blind organizations?
> 
> So if we who are working plus the government do not pay for it then who
> will? What happens to those who cannot afford to pay for it? Is healthcare
> only the right of those who are wealthy? Or a human right for everyone
> 
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>> On Jun 25, 2017, at 10:55 PM, Loren Wakefield via nfb-talk
> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> It probably is not the place for it.  However, since you aksed, the real
> question is not if healthcare is a humany right; rather, the question should
> be, should or should not the government pay for it.  And that is way out of
> the bounds of this list in my humble opinion.  But it is a very interesting
> topic.  
>> 
>> Loren
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jack 
>> Heim via nfb-talk
>> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 10:26 PM
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>> Cc: Jack Heim; Jen
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Fwd: {Single Payer} Disabled protesters dragged
> from McConnell's office! So where our blind organizations?
>> 
>> Paul Ryan is a fan of Ayn Rand  and Rand Paul was named after her. So I
> don't think they are going to be swayed by anything the United Nations says.
> That might actually work against it.  And I am not sure it is possible to
> carry on a philosophical debate on this list but I'd be interested in
> hearing what the conservatives on this list say. Is health care a human
> right?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 06/25/2017 07:47 PM, Jen via nfb-talk wrote:
>>> Hi Karen,
>>> 
>>> I feel compelled to add to your message, with which I absolutely agree.
> In the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, health care is stated as a
> huam right. I can pull up that part of the UCHR if you want. Personally, I
> feel health care is a human right.
>>> 
>>> Jen
>>> 
>>> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Karen Rose via nfb-talk
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 7:32 PM
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Karen Rose <rosekm at earthlink.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Fwd: {Single Payer} Disabled protesters dragged
> from McConnell's office! So where our blind organizations?
>>> 
>>> I think the issue here is whether healthcare, not health insurance, is a
> right or a privilege. When we talk about our right to life liberty and the
> pursuit of happiness, doesn't that include the right to visit a doctor when
> needed and thus to remain alive? If so then we need Medicare for all in the
> country from the time we are born to the time we die.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 25, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Jack Heim via nfb-talk
> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ray, you need to learn to con
> 
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