[Nfb-web] Using Drupal on Safari

Wed Jan 7 09:53:30 UTC 2009

Good evening,

You can also get a wiki filter for Drupal that will allow you to create 
content using wiki-style markup.  I believe that the Pear Wiki Filter is one 
of the more popular Drupal wiki filters.

HTH,
Everett

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Hansen" <mhansen4 at gmail.com>
To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 4:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Using Drupal on Safari

> Peter,
>
> As I recall most of those problems were do to the WYSIWYG editor built
> into X Catalyst. Becuase Drupal doesn't use a WYSWYG editor by default
> formating is typically done using HTML and CSS tags. So it is entirely
> accessible.
>
> Mike
> ---
> Mike Hansen
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Peter Donahue <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net> 
> wrote:
>> Hello Mike H. and listers,
>>
>>    I knew they were both content management systems, but was wondering if
>> Drupal has more keyboard shortcuts than X Catalyst and if the same 
>> problem
>> we had with X Catalyst happens in Drupal. Recall that we tried selecting
>> text for formatting. If we moved off of the selected text to activate the 
>> X
>> Catalyst commands for formatting text the text would be deselected and we
>> could not do the formatting. Some of us also had trouble creating links 
>> with
>> X Catalyst as well. If you tried creating a link when you viewed your
>> document the HTML was displayed instead of the highlighted text to alert 
>> the
>> visitor that that text was a hyper link. I'm wondering how this is 
>> handled
>> in Drupal and if this is a problem there too, or can one activate 
>> keystrokes
>> in order to keep the text selected for formatting, insertion of 
>> hyperlinks,
>> creating forns, etc. That's what I was getting at with my question. 
>> Thanks
>> for the great information.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael Hansen" <mhansen4 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Using Drupal on Safari
>>
>>
>> Peter,
>>
>> Good question. I could answer it by asking whats the difference
>> between a Packmate and a Braille Note? Drupal and X Catalyst are both
>> Content Management Systems (CMS). So for the benefit of others, a
>> Content Management System is a web based application tht runs on your
>> webserver. At a minimum it provides a method of authentiation (to be
>> able to log in and out) and a method to create web content via a
>> system of web forms. This is ment to make it easier for non HTML savy
>> people be able to maintain a website. It also allows you to update
>> content no mater where you are as long as you have web access.
>>
>> Many Content Management Systems go far beyond this though by allow you
>> to create different types of content like (polls, forums and, user
>> provided comments). Many CMS's also provide a mechanism for other
>> programmers to right add-on modules to further enhance the features
>> available in the CMS. For instance on the NFB of Nebraska website I am
>> working on I have modules installed to help with backups, allow for
>> online sales and, host a picture gallery.
>>
>> Now Peter specificly the differences I have found between Drupal and X
>> Catalyst.
>>
>> 1. ITS FREE. Now this obviously means that the price is right, but in
>> this case it also means that there is a huge user base and development
>> community.
>>
>> 2. Since drupal has such a large development community there is a huge
>> amount of add-on modules available for it.
>>
>> 3. Now I use drupal vissually but I know from reading on the website
>> there is a consious effort to keep the core of drupal accessible to
>> the blind. This consious through on the developer part was on of the
>> key reasons I choose to persue it. alot of drupals competitors are
>> mouse over menu driven and I imagine potentially very difficult to
>> navigate with a screen reader. Drupal is navigated purely by hyper
>> links.
>>
>> 4. If you have gotten a chance to try X Catalyst you should recall the
>> What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) editor. Drupal can have one of
>> these, if you load the right add-on module, but by default it relys on
>> the CSS of the site and the content developer to know some basic html,
>> so you can format your content using HTML or PHP as you type it in.
>>
>> 5. Conceptuall X Catalyst had 2 sides to it a development side and a
>> published side. Drupal implements this feature a little differently.
>> There isn't 2 seperate interfaces you just have to conciiously publish
>> content. Each peice of content has a published atribute. If you
>> publish something then the world can see it, but only a content
>> developer will see it untel it is published.
>>
>> Let me know if I didn't hit on something you were wondering about or
>> if you have further questions.
>>
>> I will say I was a little intimidated by drupal when i first installed
>> it. To me it was a completely new way to look at website development.
>> Until I got use to how it works I found myself getting frustrated
>> because I knew how to do something the old way but not necessarily in
>> drupal. I am happy to say though that I am now very comfortable with
>> drupal.
>>
>> Unlike some of you I would not call myself a developer but instead a
>> integrator. I am good at taking other peoples work (programs) and
>> making them work together. Working with Drupal has forced me to begin
>> to learn PHP and CSS. This has been a struggle but I don't regret it.
>>
>> Mike
>> ---
>> Mike Hansen
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:31 AM, Peter Donahue <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>> Hello Michael,
>>>
>>>    Can you explain how Drupal differs from X Catalyst?
>>>
>>> Peter Donahue
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Michael Hansen" <mhansen4 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 11:18 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Using Drupal on Safari
>>>
>>>
>>> Couple notes on Drupal,
>>>
>>> 1. I am about ready to cut the nfb webmasters site over to a drupal
>>> version. I am working out some of the last details but it will allow
>>> us a password protected site (one of the original requests by Gary). I
>>> am also looking at allowing members to contribute content that way we
>>> have a place besides email to share ideas.
>>>
>>> 2. I have a Drupal NFB Affiliate template that I have worked up over
>>> the last few days. It is roughly the same layout as the Offical NFB
>>> Affiliate templates and uses the same color sceme but still needs some
>>> work to be exactly the same. If any one is interested in it let me
>>> know.
>>>
>>> 3. If there is interest I would be happy to setup a Drupal Sandbox
>>> members could experiment with.
>>>
>>> Oh and by the way drupal is awesome, I have to thank Atty for turning
>>> me on to it.
>>> ---
>>> Mike Hansen
>>> NFB of Nebraska
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 9:57 AM, The Crowd <the_crowd at cox.net> wrote:
>>>> Some hosting companies are still not up to 6.8 though, unfortunately.
>>>>
>>>> Atty
>>>>
>>>> Life is short ...forgive quickly, kiss slowly, love truly,  laugh
>>>> uncontrollably... and never regret anything that made you smile
>>>>
>>>> "Qui docet, discit."
>>>> "He who teaches, learns"
>>>>
>>>> I have learned that people will forget what you said,
>>>> people will forget what you did,
>>>> but people will never forget how you made them feel.
>>>> Maya Angelou
>>>>
>>>>
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