[Nfb-web] Web Design as a Career

Thu Mar 5 19:37:16 UTC 2009

Hello Peter. I suspect that the agenda is already well set for the Youth 
Slam, but I would be more than happy to see some introductory training done 
during the webmasters seminar if that's what people would like to do. It may 
be that Mike Hansen and the folks who have worked most closely with him 
would be willing to show us some of the features they are now using in the 
webmasters development site. In some respects I think that learning to 
develop WebPages is more a matter of knowing how to read, and taking 
advantage of things already on the web than it is using a part of Youth Slam 
which is a bit more oriented to getting people to do things they thought 
they could never do before.

I would be interested in knowing what folks would like to see on the agenda 
for our meeting this year.

Warmest regards,

Gary
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:52 AM
Subject: [Nfb-web] Web Design as a Career

> Good morning everyone,
>
>    Following on with Arnold's comments this is something I've been 
> thinking
> about for a while. Web Site Design and Management falls under Technology 
> in
> the STEM acronym we often hear discussed in conversations concerning our
> science initiative. We have a Youth SLAM coming up this summer; a 
> wonderful
> opportunity to introduce blind youngsters to the World of Web Site 
> planning,
> design, construction, and management. Will a Web Design Track be a part of
> this year's Youth SLAM Program? If you asked me it should be! Given all of
> us who successfully build and manage Web sites for our affiliates and 
> other
> entities and the all-ready rich amount of resources available to assist
> blind Web developers we should be doing more to inspire more blind youth 
> to
> consider Web Development as a career.
>
>    Gary Wunder and I have had some correspondence concerning this matter. 
> I
> believe one of the biggest issues to be resolved is how best to do it. I
> suggested to him that a portion of this year's Webmasters Workshop be
> devoted to developing strategies as to how to inspire more blind people to
> seriously consider becoming Web developers.
>
> In discussing building Web sites for some of our affiliates the question
> has been asked, "Whose going to fill your shoes" when you leave this 
> World.
> Although I enjoy creating and servicing affiliate Web sites I recognize 
> that
> I'm not going to live forever. This and the all ready significant number 
> of
> blind Web professionals has lead me to believe that this is a career more
> blind individuals should give serious consideration and that we as a group
> should play a part in making that happen.
>
> I've given this matter some thought and have casually tried out some ideas
> for teaching particular concepts to other blind people. The NFB Jernigan
> Institute doesn't run from a challenge. I'm hoping we can partner with 
> them
> to develop new and innovative ways of instructing blind persons in Web 
> site
> design and maintenance to ensure that our Web resources will continue to
> grow and be cared for and to create new Web entities if and when they're
> needed. I'll look forward to reading the feedback.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Arnold Bailey" <arnoldbail at gmail.com>
> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 6:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] NFB-WEB Sandbox
>
>
> Mike.
>
> Thanks to Everett and yourself for the comments.
>
> My interest in Drupal is twofold.
>
>   1. Curiosity and to expand my knowledge.
>   2. I have this vision of creating a platform to draw blind and visually
>   impaired students into investigating programming as a career. It would 
> be
>   great if it was at a national level; but, a chapter level is ok. With 
> 70%
>   unemployment in our community, there is obviously a great need. I must
>   admit, though, that, other than Peter D,, I've found zero support. But, 
> I
>   can't give up the vision without feeling I've let down a lot of kids. 
> The
>   Drupal development platform and learning support activities that it
>   requires, I think, is a great learning mechanism.
>
> Arnold
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Michael Hansen <mhansen4 at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> Arnold,
>>
>> Everett is correct. My thought on the matter would be how much do you
>> want the ISP to take care of versus how much are you the Admin willing
>> to take care of?
>>
>> Mike
>> ---
>> Mike Hansen
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:20 AM, E.J. Zufelt <everett at zufelt.ca> wrote:
>> > Good morning,
>> >
>> > If the ISP supports mysQL and PHP it takes about 20 minutes to install
>> > Drupal for a hosting account.
>> >
>> > HTH,
>> > Everett
>> >
>> >
>> > On 4-Mar-09, at 8:37 AM, Arnold Bailey wrote:
>> >
>> >> Mike,
>> >>
>> >> Very nice work. I did notice that in firefox the navigation side bar 
>> >> is
>> >> located into the center of the webmasters sandbox page. In IE it's
>> >> fine.
>> >>
>> >> One question I have. Is there any thoughts given to affiliate and
>> chapters
>> >> usage of drupal? It seems like it would make sense for the affiliate
>> >> and
>> >> chapters to pull a drupal theme and NFB applications and use them on
>> their
>> >> site, The problem is that drupal is not usually found on most ISPs. I
>> >> would
>> >> think that a single ISP that has drupal support would be cost
>> effectively
>> >> justified.
>> >>
>> >> Arnold
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Michael Hansen <mhansen4 at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> The Sandbox is now up and running on our website. If you want to play
>> >>> around with a drupal install and not have to worry about breaking
>> >>> something there is one there for you. If you want to experiment with
>> >>> other things just create a sub directory off of the root and dorp in
>> >>> your code. Complete login information is posted on our website.
>> >>>
>> >>> Let me know if you have questions.
>> >>>
>> >>> Mike
>> >>> ---
>> >>> Mike Hansen
>> >>>
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