[Nfb-web] NFB-WEB Sandbox

Thu Mar 5 22:45:18 UTC 2009

Hi Everett,

I agree on your points. That's why drupal interested me so much. It's a
great leadin to programming and allows for a programming development
environment that encompasses these languages. It will all depend on the
ability of the enrollers. My goal would be to create a simulated development
programming environment that matches the business world.

Arnold

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Arnold Bailey <arnoldbail at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Stanzil,
>
> I've been on the CS mailing list for 3 years or so.
>
> I've been a lifelong programmer. I worked 34 years in IBM and contracted
> for 6 years with NY Times, Verizon, Lucent. All in programming: analyst,
> development programmer, systems analyst, systems programmer, programmer
> manager, network development and admin, databse programer. I've probably
> learned over 100 different program languages. I started as a mainframe
> operator who had to program. The last 6 years I've been doing web
> development for a number of websites using flash, asp, css, html, etc. I am
> retired now.
>
> This background I think gives me some credablity when I duscuss all the
> facets of IT. I developed the East Hillsborought Chapter, in Florida,
> website: http://www.blind411.org/
>
> I created the ITCareers site which I sent to Jernigan:
> http://www.blind411.org/ITCareers/ which is a great newbie programmer
> site.
>
> I also created the IT Initiative site to propose to the county school
> district about IT importance as a career and instruction in the k-12
> schools. I presented this to the district  superintendent and her staff. The
> site is: http://www.blind411.org/ITinit/
>
> The presentations I gave are at http://www.blind411.org/CTinitiatives.html
>
> Thanks for your interest. It would be nice to build a team that all agree
> on this topic.
>
> Arnold
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:05 PM, E.J. Zufelt <everett at zufelt.ca> wrote:
>
>> I agree that Drupal can be a good platform for teaching web development.
>>  It handles all of the background functionality so that students can become
>> familiar with how a web-site works.  Afterwards students can begin to
>> investigate PHP while developing custom modules for their Drupal
>> installation.
>>
>> However, I wouldn't say that Drupal is a good platform for teaching
>> programing.  I think that the best way to teach programming is with a
>> language like VB or C# which allows for learning about object oriented
>> programming.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Everett
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5-Mar-09, at 9:45 AM, Michael Hansen wrote:
>>
>>  Cool,  If there is something I can do to help let me know. I know
>>> people here in Nebraska that would be interested in such a resource.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> ---
>>> Mike Hansen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Arnold Bailey <arnoldbail at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mike.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to Everett and yourself for the comments.
>>>>
>>>> My interest in Drupal is twofold.
>>>>
>>>>  1. Curiosity and to expand my knowledge.
>>>>  2. I have this vision of creating a platform to draw blind and visually
>>>>  impaired students into investigating programming as a career. It would
>>>> be
>>>>  great if it was at a national level; but, a chapter level is ok. With
>>>> 70%
>>>>  unemployment in our community, there is obviously a great need. I must
>>>>  admit, though, that, other than Peter D,, I've found zero support. But,
>>>> I
>>>>  can't give up the vision without feeling I've let down a lot of kids.
>>>> The
>>>>  Drupal development platform and learning support activities that it
>>>>  requires, I think, is a great learning mechanism.
>>>>
>>>> Arnold
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Michael Hansen <mhansen4 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Arnold,
>>>>>
>>>>> Everett is correct. My thought on the matter would be how much do you
>>>>> want the ISP to take care of versus how much are you the Admin willing
>>>>> to take care of?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Mike Hansen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:20 AM, E.J. Zufelt <everett at zufelt.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Good morning,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the ISP supports mysQL and PHP it takes about 20 minutes to install
>>>>>> Drupal for a hosting account.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>> Everett
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4-Mar-09, at 8:37 AM, Arnold Bailey wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Mike,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very nice work. I did notice that in firefox the navigation side bar
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> located into the center of the webmasters sandbox page. In IE it's
>>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One question I have. Is there any thoughts given to affiliate and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> chapters
>>>>>
>>>>>> usage of drupal? It seems like it would make sense for the affiliate
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> chapters to pull a drupal theme and NFB applications and use them on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> their
>>>>>
>>>>>> site, The problem is that drupal is not usually found on most ISPs. I
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> think that a single ISP that has drupal support would be cost
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> effectively
>>>>>
>>>>>> justified.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Arnold
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Michael Hansen <mhansen4 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  The Sandbox is now up and running on our website. If you want to
>>>>>>>> play
>>>>>>>> around with a drupal install and not have to worry about breaking
>>>>>>>> something there is one there for you. If you want to experiment with
>>>>>>>> other things just create a sub directory off of the root and dorp in
>>>>>>>> your code. Complete login information is posted on our website.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let me know if you have questions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> Mike Hansen
>>>>>>>>
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