[Nfb-web] NFB-WEB Sandbox

Thu Mar 5 22:40:13 UTC 2009

Hi Stanzil,

I've been on the CS mailing list for 3 years or so.

I've been a lifelong programmer. I worked 34 years in IBM and contracted for
6 years with NY Times, Verizon, Lucent. All in programming: analyst,
development programmer, systems analyst, systems programmer, programmer
manager, network development and admin, databse programer. I've probably
learned over 100 different program languages. I started as a mainframe
operator who had to program. The last 6 years I've been doing web
development for a number of websites using flash, asp, css, html, etc. I am
retired now.

This background I think gives me some credablity when I duscuss all the
facets of IT. I developed the East Hillsborought Chapter, in Florida,
website: http://www.blind411.org/

I created the ITCareers site which I sent to Jernigan:
http://www.blind411.org/ITCareers/ which is a great newbie programmer site.

I also created the IT Initiative site to propose to the county school
district about IT importance as a career and instruction in the k-12
schools. I presented this to the district  superintendent and her staff. The
site is: http://www.blind411.org/ITinit/

The presentations I gave are at http://www.blind411.org/CTinitiatives.html

Thanks for your interest. It would be nice to build a team that all agree on
this topic.

Arnold

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:05 PM, E.J. Zufelt <everett at zufelt.ca> wrote:

> I agree that Drupal can be a good platform for teaching web development.
>  It handles all of the background functionality so that students can become
> familiar with how a web-site works.  Afterwards students can begin to
> investigate PHP while developing custom modules for their Drupal
> installation.
>
> However, I wouldn't say that Drupal is a good platform for teaching
> programing.  I think that the best way to teach programming is with a
> language like VB or C# which allows for learning about object oriented
> programming.
>
> HTH,
> Everett
>
>
>
> On 5-Mar-09, at 9:45 AM, Michael Hansen wrote:
>
>  Cool,  If there is something I can do to help let me know. I know
>> people here in Nebraska that would be interested in such a resource.
>>
>> Mike
>> ---
>> Mike Hansen
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Arnold Bailey <arnoldbail at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mike.
>>>
>>> Thanks to Everett and yourself for the comments.
>>>
>>> My interest in Drupal is twofold.
>>>
>>>  1. Curiosity and to expand my knowledge.
>>>  2. I have this vision of creating a platform to draw blind and visually
>>>  impaired students into investigating programming as a career. It would
>>> be
>>>  great if it was at a national level; but, a chapter level is ok. With
>>> 70%
>>>  unemployment in our community, there is obviously a great need. I must
>>>  admit, though, that, other than Peter D,, I've found zero support. But,
>>> I
>>>  can't give up the vision without feeling I've let down a lot of kids.
>>> The
>>>  Drupal development platform and learning support activities that it
>>>  requires, I think, is a great learning mechanism.
>>>
>>> Arnold
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Michael Hansen <mhansen4 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Arnold,
>>>>
>>>> Everett is correct. My thought on the matter would be how much do you
>>>> want the ISP to take care of versus how much are you the Admin willing
>>>> to take care of?
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>> ---
>>>> Mike Hansen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:20 AM, E.J. Zufelt <everett at zufelt.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good morning,
>>>>>
>>>>> If the ISP supports mysQL and PHP it takes about 20 minutes to install
>>>>> Drupal for a hosting account.
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH,
>>>>> Everett
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4-Mar-09, at 8:37 AM, Arnold Bailey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Mike,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very nice work. I did notice that in firefox the navigation side bar
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> located into the center of the webmasters sandbox page. In IE it's
>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One question I have. Is there any thoughts given to affiliate and
>>>>>>
>>>>> chapters
>>>>
>>>>> usage of drupal? It seems like it would make sense for the affiliate
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> chapters to pull a drupal theme and NFB applications and use them on
>>>>>>
>>>>> their
>>>>
>>>>> site, The problem is that drupal is not usually found on most ISPs. I
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> think that a single ISP that has drupal support would be cost
>>>>>>
>>>>> effectively
>>>>
>>>>> justified.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Arnold
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Michael Hansen <mhansen4 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  The Sandbox is now up and running on our website. If you want to play
>>>>>>> around with a drupal install and not have to worry about breaking
>>>>>>> something there is one there for you. If you want to experiment with
>>>>>>> other things just create a sub directory off of the root and dorp in
>>>>>>> your code. Complete login information is posted on our website.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me know if you have questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> Mike Hansen
>>>>>>>
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