[Nfb-web] introduction

Wunder, Gary WunderG at health.missouri.edu
Fri Oct 23 13:38:47 UTC 2009


Hi Chris. I see many of the problems you mention in the design of GUI. It is good you have the skills to the behind the scenes work. Somehow we have to try to crack this nut of learning how a well-designed web page looks so we can create them, even if, in the end, they need some review by a sighted colleague.

Gary


-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Westbrook
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 5:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] introduction

Welcome, Peter.  I don't post much to this list, I don't actually do any NFB work at the moment, but I am a web developer at an ad agency.  I think design work is a challenge all web developers face, blind or sighted, but I think blindness creates even more challenges in this area.  It is extremely hard for a blind person to understand where things are laid out on the screen and what size certain things should be in relation to other things on the page because, well, we can't see the screen.  Yes, we can go to a sighted person and get feedback and attempt to adjust our pages to match their feedback, but it is my experience that this takes a lot longer than having a sighted person do the markup and look at it instantly.  It has been decided at my department by new management to remove me from design work as much as possible and have me focus on back end and JavaScript programming and be given templates to use with the necessary fields and tables for the project already included.  Frankly, I hate design work.  I think most of you develop for a blindness only or primarily blind clientele, so you are not aware of how hard it is to design for the sighted.  I'm not even talking about flash, etc., I'm talking about pure html and css.  I believe this is why the national office has made templates for all affiliates to use, and I would be willing to bet they were made by sighted people.  As an aside, I hope your learning of JavaScript includes jquery, which has taken the JavaScript world by storm.  Microsoft is even including it in their latest asp.net framework.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
To: <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:18 AM
Subject: [Nfb-web] introduction


To NFB webmasters,


    My name is Peter, who is a amateur web programming working on my new site found below at my signature. Currently working on learning java script just got to look back over hyper text markup language and cascading style sheets as I've been busy in classes too. If you have any advice about your first viewing of my site that would be appreciated. What are some common challenges that all of you as blind website programmers face? My biggest challenge is too convey visual affects in the right size and shape in that specific area to be visually appealing to users on all platforms using different specs with different sproviders and hardware/software functionality. My project is to one day to make a free persistant browser based game for the blind and sighted to play for free! If you have any resources you can give me in any helfpful way they will all be appreciated. Thanks for all of the help to  this novice.

Sincerely,


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Peter
Webmaster
http://www.darkstruggle.com
webmaster at darkstruggle.com
alternative e-mail
sunspot005 at gmail.com

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