[Nfb-web] introduction

Fri Oct 23 17:57:39 UTC 2009

Hi Listers,

I have been told you need to have Open Book or Curzweil to download Book Sharebooks to be read on the Victor Reader. Is there an easier way. I downloaded a book and had all kinds of extentions after unzipping it. I didn't know which one to use for the Victor Stream.

Susie

-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Westbrook
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:51 PM
To: NFB Webmaster's List
Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] introduction

Download hte daisey version and unpack it and you should see an html version
that you can open up in internet explorer.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Peter Wolfe <sunspot005 at gmail.com> wrote:

> actually I was refring to the place of bookshare.rog. It even states
> in several parts of the site that it needs a player. To play a rfbd
> player you would have to have paid for that service, so i negates your
> point. Hoever, I search for bookshare books with some issues because I
> find it and find a way to get the zipped files right? Well, I go into
> every single file extension with no success and that isn't th last of
> them either as far as issues just the tip of my personal iceberg
>
> On 10/23/09, Peter Donahue <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > Hello Peter,
> >
> >     I believe you're referring to RFB&D. They require the use of a
> special
> > download manager to download their audio books. Contact their tech
> support
> > for assistance with your trouble. Bookshare.org no longer requires the
> use
> > of such a program to access their books. All the best.
> >
> > Peter Donahue
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
> > To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:36 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] introduction
> >
> >
> > Peter,
> >
> >
> >     It's Peter that oiginally posted about advice on learning
> > programming. I can't get my free Bookshare account to work right with
> > the player that I downloaded to read the documents. I've almost tried
> > everything with that stupid player. I thought originally you didn't
> > need a player to download the files?
> >
> > On 10/23/09, Peter Donahue <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >> Hello Peter and listers,
> >>
> >>     Are you a member of bookshare.org?
> >>
> >> They have lots of books on Web design including many titles covering
> >> various
> >> Web programming languages and techniques. For further information visit:
> >> http://www.bookshare.org
> >>
> >> Peter Donahue
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
> >> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 8:08 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] introduction
> >>
> >>
> >> Chris,
> >>
> >>
> >>     Thanks for the speedy welcome on this e-mail list. What would be
> >> better than an e-mail list is a forum. Uh, got any tips on learning
> >> all of the languages that you know being blind? Mine are that you have
> >> to be extremely patient being blind than a normal programmer. There
> >> are things that we can do though to be able to make the page more
> >> visual just takes more time with learning more code. I've currently
> >> got like three e-books from O'Reilly publishing and plan to wait for
> >> the html 5 and css 2.1 books next ear. My other thing is my adobe
> >> reader acts up with it's big document and freezes if I leave the page.
> >> Got any ideas on how to fix that specific problem?
> >>     Well, thanks for ll of the information man. Sorry that your bitter
> >> about yu know all of that stuff you have to go into as a programmer.
> >> Maybe a database administrator is better? My friend Andy works in
> >> Washington D.C as a defense database admin and seems to be getting
> >> along quite well. Moreover, I wish to eventually make my game into a
> >> software and use it as a plugin in your browser. Looking for assistant
> >> webmasters and volunteers too!
> >>
> >> On 10/23/09, Chris Westbrook <westbchris at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Welcome, Peter.  I don't post much to this list, I don't actually do
> any
> >>> NFB
> >>> work at the moment, but I am a web developer at an ad agency.  I think
> >>> design work is a challenge all web developers face, blind or sighted,
> but
> >>> I
> >>> think blindness creates even more challenges in this area.  It is
> >>> extremely
> >>> hard for a blind person to understand where things are laid out on the
> >>> screen and what size certain things should be in relation to other
> things
> >>> on
> >>> the page because, well, we can't see the screen.  Yes, we can go to a
> >>> sighted person and get feedback and attempt to adjust our pages to
> match
> >>> their feedback, but it is my experience that this takes a lot longer
> than
> >>> having a sighted person do the markup and look at it instantly.  It has
> >>> been
> >>> decided at my department by new management to remove me from design
> work
> >>> as
> >>> much as possible and have me focus on back end and JavaScript
> programming
> >>> and be given templates to use with the necessary fields and tables for
> >>> the
> >>> project already included.  Frankly, I hate design work.  I think most
> of
> >>> you
> >>> develop for a blindness only or primarily blind clientele, so you are
> not
> >>> aware of how hard it is to design for the sighted.  I'm not even
> talking
> >>> about flash, etc., I'm talking about pure html and css.  I believe this
> >>> is
> >>> why the national office has made templates for all affiliates to use,
> and
> >>> I
> >>> would be willing to bet they were made by sighted people.  As an aside,
> I
> >>> hope your learning of JavaScript includes jquery, which has taken the
> >>> JavaScript world by storm.  Microsoft is even including it in their
> >>> latest
> >>> asp.net framework.
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
> >>> To: <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:18 AM
> >>> Subject: [Nfb-web] introduction
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> To NFB webmasters,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     My name is Peter, who is a amateur web programming working on my
> >>> new site found below at my signature. Currently working on learning
> >>> java script just got to look back over hyper text markup language and
> >>> cascading style sheets as I've been busy in classes too. If you have
> >>> any advice about your first viewing of my site that would be
> >>> appreciated. What are some common challenges that all of you as blind
> >>> website programmers face? My biggest challenge is too convey visual
> >>> affects in the right size and shape in that specific area to be
> >>> visually appealing to users on all platforms using different specs
> >>> with different sproviders and hardware/software functionality. My
> >>> project is to one day to make a free persistant browser based game for
> >>> the blind and sighted to play for free! If you have any resources you
> >>> can give me in any helfpful way they will all be appreciated. Thanks
> >>> for all of the help to  this novice.
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Peter
> >>> Webmaster
> >>> http://www.darkstruggle.com
> >>> webmaster at darkstruggle.com
> >>> alternative e-mail
> >>> sunspot005 at gmail.com
> >>>
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> >> --
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> > --
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> --
> Peter
> Webmaster
> http://www.darkstruggle.com
> webmaster at darkstruggle.com
> alternative e-mail
> sunspot005 at gmail.com
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