[Nfb-web] introduction

dean martineau dean92 at earthlink.net
Fri Oct 23 19:21:45 UTC 2009 

The old way of having an html file for Bookshare books used to work in the
old version of their system, but not as well now.  It is very easy to put
Bookshare books on the Stream.  If you have problems with these steps, I ort
others can help you:

1.  When you are goind to download a Bookshare book, choose DAISY unless you
want braille.  From the open/save prompt, choose Open.  This will result in
all the contents of the .zip DAISY book in a list.

2.  Select all those files and copy to the clipboard.

3.  Create a folder in your hard drive into which this book's files, and
only they, will be placed.


4.  Open that new folder and paste the files you copied.  You'll have to
give your BookShare password at this time.

5.  You'll want to close the other folder, the one containing the zip file
list.


6.  Copy or cut that folder containing your book into the $vrdtb folder on
your stream.

There you have it.  You will read the book with the text voice, and there
are two to choose from.  Personally, for many books, since I do have
Kurzweil, I run the books through it so I can read them with EloQuence, but
that's a matter of personal choice.

Dean
To find out about the week's news in adaptive technology, subscribe to Top
Tech Tidbits for Thursday by sending a blank message to
tttt-join at topdotenterprises.com. (make sure you have 4 t's in the address!)



-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Stanzel, Susan - Kansas City, MO
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 10:58 AM
To: 'NFB Webmaster's List'
Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] introduction

Hi Listers,

I have been told you need to have Open Book or Curzweil to download Book
Sharebooks to be read on the Victor Reader. Is there an easier way. I
downloaded a book and had all kinds of extentions after unzipping it. I
didn't know which one to use for the Victor Stream.

Susie

-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Chris Westbrook
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:51 PM
To: NFB Webmaster's List
Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] introduction

Download hte daisey version and unpack it and you should see an html version
that you can open up in internet explorer.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Peter Wolfe <sunspot005 at gmail.com> wrote:

> actually I was refring to the place of bookshare.rog. It even states
> in several parts of the site that it needs a player. To play a rfbd
> player you would have to have paid for that service, so i negates your
> point. Hoever, I search for bookshare books with some issues because I
> find it and find a way to get the zipped files right? Well, I go into
> every single file extension with no success and that isn't th last of
> them either as far as issues just the tip of my personal iceberg
>
> On 10/23/09, Peter Donahue <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > Hello Peter,
> >
> >     I believe you're referring to RFB&D. They require the use of a
> special
> > download manager to download their audio books. Contact their tech
> support
> > for assistance with your trouble. Bookshare.org no longer requires the
> use
> > of such a program to access their books. All the best.
> >
> > Peter Donahue
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
> > To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:36 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] introduction
> >
> >
> > Peter,
> >
> >
> >     It's Peter that oiginally posted about advice on learning
> > programming. I can't get my free Bookshare account to work right with
> > the player that I downloaded to read the documents. I've almost tried
> > everything with that stupid player. I thought originally you didn't
> > need a player to download the files?
> >
> > On 10/23/09, Peter Donahue <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >> Hello Peter and listers,
> >>
> >>     Are you a member of bookshare.org?
> >>
> >> They have lots of books on Web design including many titles covering
> >> various
> >> Web programming languages and techniques. For further information
visit:
> >> http://www.bookshare.org
> >>
> >> Peter Donahue
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
> >> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 8:08 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] introduction
> >>
> >>
> >> Chris,
> >>
> >>
> >>     Thanks for the speedy welcome on this e-mail list. What would be
> >> better than an e-mail list is a forum. Uh, got any tips on learning
> >> all of the languages that you know being blind? Mine are that you have
> >> to be extremely patient being blind than a normal programmer. There
> >> are things that we can do though to be able to make the page more
> >> visual just takes more time with learning more code. I've currently
> >> got like three e-books from O'Reilly publishing and plan to wait for
> >> the html 5 and css 2.1 books next ear. My other thing is my adobe
> >> reader acts up with it's big document and freezes if I leave the page.
> >> Got any ideas on how to fix that specific problem?
> >>     Well, thanks for ll of the information man. Sorry that your bitter
> >> about yu know all of that stuff you have to go into as a programmer.
> >> Maybe a database administrator is better? My friend Andy works in
> >> Washington D.C as a defense database admin and seems to be getting
> >> along quite well. Moreover, I wish to eventually make my game into a
> >> software and use it as a plugin in your browser. Looking for assistant
> >> webmasters and volunteers too!
> >>
> >> On 10/23/09, Chris Westbrook <westbchris at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Welcome, Peter.  I don't post much to this list, I don't actually do
> any
> >>> NFB
> >>> work at the moment, but I am a web developer at an ad agency.  I think
> >>> design work is a challenge all web developers face, blind or sighted,
> but
> >>> I
> >>> think blindness creates even more challenges in this area.  It is
> >>> extremely
> >>> hard for a blind person to understand where things are laid out on the
> >>> screen and what size certain things should be in relation to other
> things
> >>> on
> >>> the page because, well, we can't see the screen.  Yes, we can go to a
> >>> sighted person and get feedback and attempt to adjust our pages to
> match
> >>> their feedback, but it is my experience that this takes a lot longer
> than
> >>> having a sighted person do the markup and look at it instantly.  It
has
> >>> been
> >>> decided at my department by new management to remove me from design
> work
> >>> as
> >>> much as possible and have me focus on back end and JavaScript
> programming
> >>> and be given templates to use with the necessary fields and tables for
> >>> the
> >>> project already included.  Frankly, I hate design work.  I think most
> of
> >>> you
> >>> develop for a blindness only or primarily blind clientele, so you are
> not
> >>> aware of how hard it is to design for the sighted.  I'm not even
> talking
> >>> about flash, etc., I'm talking about pure html and css.  I believe
this
> >>> is
> >>> why the national office has made templates for all affiliates to use,
> and
> >>> I
> >>> would be willing to bet they were made by sighted people.  As an
aside,
> I
> >>> hope your learning of JavaScript includes jquery, which has taken the
> >>> JavaScript world by storm.  Microsoft is even including it in their
> >>> latest
> >>> asp.net framework.
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
> >>> To: <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:18 AM
> >>> Subject: [Nfb-web] introduction
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> To NFB webmasters,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     My name is Peter, who is a amateur web programming working on my
> >>> new site found below at my signature. Currently working on learning
> >>> java script just got to look back over hyper text markup language and
> >>> cascading style sheets as I've been busy in classes too. If you have
> >>> any advice about your first viewing of my site that would be
> >>> appreciated. What are some common challenges that all of you as blind
> >>> website programmers face? My biggest challenge is too convey visual
> >>> affects in the right size and shape in that specific area to be
> >>> visually appealing to users on all platforms using different specs
> >>> with different sproviders and hardware/software functionality. My
> >>> project is to one day to make a free persistant browser based game for
> >>> the blind and sighted to play for free! If you have any resources you
> >>> can give me in any helfpful way they will all be appreciated. Thanks
> >>> for all of the help to  this novice.
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Peter
> >>> Webmaster
> >>> http://www.darkstruggle.com
> >>> webmaster at darkstruggle.com
> >>> alternative e-mail
> >>> sunspot005 at gmail.com
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Nfb-web mailing list
> >>> Nfb-web at nfbnet.org
> >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org
> >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> >>> Nfb-web:
> >>>
>
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/westbchris%40gmail.
com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Nfb-web mailing list
> >>> Nfb-web at nfbnet.org
> >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org
> >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> >>> Nfb-web:
> >>>
>
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/sunspot005%40gmail.
com
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Peter
> >> Webmaster
> >> http://www.darkstruggle.com
> >> webmaster at darkstruggle.com
> >> alternative e-mail
> >> sunspot005 at gmail.com
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Nfb-web mailing list
> >> Nfb-web at nfbnet.org
> >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org
> >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> >> Nfb-web:
> >>
>
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/pdonahue1%40sbcglob
al.net
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Nfb-web mailing list
> >> Nfb-web at nfbnet.org
> >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org
> >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> >> Nfb-web:
> >>
>
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/sunspot005%40gmail.
com
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Peter
> > Webmaster
> > http://www.darkstruggle.com
> > webmaster at darkstruggle.com
> > alternative e-mail
> > sunspot005 at gmail.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Nfb-web mailing list
> > Nfb-web at nfbnet.org
> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> > Nfb-web:
> >
>
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/pdonahue1%40sbcglob
al.net
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Nfb-web mailing list
> > Nfb-web at nfbnet.org
> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> > Nfb-web:
> >
>
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/sunspot005%40gmail.
com
> >
>
>
> --
> Peter
> Webmaster
> http://www.darkstruggle.com
> webmaster at darkstruggle.com
> alternative e-mail
> sunspot005 at gmail.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Nfb-web mailing list
> Nfb-web at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Nfb-web:
>
>
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/westbchris%40gmail.
com
>
_______________________________________________
Nfb-web mailing list
Nfb-web at nfbnet.org
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
Nfb-web:
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/susan.stanzel%40kcc
.usda.gov

_______________________________________________
Nfb-web mailing list
Nfb-web at nfbnet.org
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
Nfb-web:
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/dean92%40earthlink.
net

__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature
database 4537 (20091023) __________

The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.

http://www.eset.com


 

__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature
database 4537 (20091023) __________

The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.

http://www.eset.com

More information about the NFB-Web mailing list