[Nfb-web] Captcha Alternatives

Wed Jun 29 00:19:08 UTC 2011

Hello Chris and others,

That just means it's way past time we as a technology industry come up 
with a two-factor authentication scheme that does not require a 
particular sensory output.

How about giving us choices?

Visual CAPTCHA? Audio CAPTCHA? Receive a text message through a cell 
phone that might vibrate or use a Braille display?

Check out http://phonefactor.net for an interesting alternative.

Regards,

Darrell

On 6/28/2011 4:58 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote:
> Unfortunately, I'm not sure there is a way to include the deaf blind without making it too easy for spammers to defeat.  Deaf blind people need text, and computers can process text fairly well now unfortunately.
> Chris Westbrook
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> On Jun 28, 2011, at 6:10 PM, Peter Donahue wrote:
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>> Hello everyone,
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>> That system still locks out the deaf-blind .
>>
>> Peter Donahue
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gary Wunder"<GWunder at earthlink.net>
>> To: "'NFB Webmaster's List'"<nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 2:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Captcha Alternatives
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>>
>> Wow, good deal. Thanks.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Jaquiss, Robert
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:50 PM
>> To: NFB Webmaster's List
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Captcha Alternatives
>>
>> Hello Gary:
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>>      I don't know if Dr. Lazar from Towson will be at the convention, but he
>> and his students have come up with a unique CAPTCHA.
>> The user is asked to press the space bar when a certain sound is heard. For
>> example, the user is asked to press space when they hear a train. The user
>> then hears a sequence of sounds such as a cat, horse, glass breaking, train
>> etc. the system seems to work.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Robert
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>>
>> Robert Jaquiss
>> National Federation of the Blind
>> 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place
>> Baltimore, Maryland 21230
>> Phone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2422
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Gary Wunder
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:39 PM
>> To: 'NFB Webmaster's List'
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Captcha Alternatives
>>
>> Would you like to speak about it at the webmasters meeting?
>>
>> Gary
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Peter Donahue
>> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 3:21 PM
>> To: Discussion of the Graphical User Interface,GUI Talk Mailing List
>> Cc: nfb-web at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Nfb-web] Captcha Alternatives
>>
>> Hello everyone,
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>>     This whole issue has caused me to seek out alternatives to captchas and
>> the problems they cause for all Web site visitors. Being a ColdFusion
>> developer I was delighted to discover a utility called "CFForm Protect."
>> This plug-in does its work behind-the-scenes and requires no user
>> interaction removing the need to deal with traditional captchas and the
>> accessibility issues they create for the blind. To learn more about CFForm
>> Protect visit:
>> http://cfformprotect.riaforge.org/
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>>     To see a demonstration of how it works visit:
>> http://www.nfb-writers-division.net/blog
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>>     We currently have CFForm Protect running on the blog and will role it
>> out to other interactive components of this Web site in the coming months.
>> I'll also be installing it on several other ColdFusion sites I'm creating or
>> will build in the future. Want to give it a go? Select the link to the blog
>> post and leave a comment. In your comment type more than six URLS, enter
>> words and phrases such as free music download, or Viagra and see what
>> happens. In the future CFForm Protects capabilities will be enhanced by
>> linking it to Akismet and Project Honeypot.com.
>>
>>     One idea I suggested to control spam while not locking out blind Web
>> surfers is to find a utility that will compare a would-be spammer's IP
>> address with those of known spammers and preventing that spam bot from
>> entering data in to the form. Project Honeypot does exactly that! The IP
>> address of an entity attempting to fill out a Web form is compared with
>> Honeypot's extensive database of IP Addresses of known spammers. If a match
>> is not found the entity is allowed to fill out the Web site form. If a match
>> is found the entity attempting to fill out the form is prevented from doing
>> so thus protecting the site's owners from spam bots. Working with CFForm
>> Protect Project Honeypot gathers flagged form entries belonging to would-be
>> spammers and adds their IP addresses to its database. Hence we can do a
>> little community service as well as protecting our Web sites from spam bots
>> all with out creating accessibility barriers for blind computer users!
>> Project Honeypot is a free service.
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>>     Akismet is a paid service that can determine if the entity filling out a
>> Web form is a spammer or not. If it flaggs the entity as a spammer it
>> notifies the site owner so they can take further action.
>>
>>     My discovery of CFFormProtect has me wondering if there are similar
>> plugging, components, and utilities developed for other Web development
>> environments: ASP, PHP, ASP.NET, ETC. Perhaps this is a matter for our
>> Webmasters and the IBTC to explore and gather information about these
>> products and services. Whenever someone seeks our help to make their Web
>> site accessible we can recommend the installation of one of these programs
>> instead of captchas and the problems they create for blind and deaf-blind
>> computer users. Just thought I would spread the word.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
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>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ken lawrence"<kenlawrence124 at aol.com>
>> To:<gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 4:21 PM
>> Subject: [gui-talk] will Webvisum be rendered useless?
>>
>>
>> Hi Ken here.  I read in Kim Komando's email that firefox has started a new
>> schedule they will be new versions of the browser every too months.  I just
>> got the update automaticly today and they are recommending you install it
>> since no more updates will be made for version 4.  So in two months for
>> example version 6 or maybe 5 point something or other.  Webvisum has been
>> disabled since it isn't updated.  the firefox browser says it will enable it
>>
>> if it has an update.  But can webvisum possible keep up with a two months
>> schedule?  is our capcha solver useless thanks to this new timetable by
>> firefox?
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