[Nfb-web] Captcha Alternatives

Peter Donahue pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com
Wed Jun 29 01:54:15 UTC 2011 

Hello Chris and everyone,

    The best alternative I've seen is to completely remove the end user from 
the verification process and perform such checks in the background. This is 
exactly what CFForm Protect does. To see it in action visit:
http://www.nfb-writers-division.net/blog

        Leave a comment to one of the posts there and load it up with more 
than six URLS, or enter words such as Viagra, free music download, etc.

    Perhaps the Towson system could be modified to detect a Braille-aware 
device and display random patterns of dots that a deaf-blind person could 
feel. When they feel the pattern they would press the spacebar as do those 
who hear the sound. These patterns would only be generated if a Braille 
display is in use.

    But as I said why mess with these things when there are technologies 
that eliminate the need for user interaction and perform spam bot screening 
in the background removing accessibility barriers for everyone.

Peter Donahue


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Westbrook" <westbchris at gmail.com>
To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Captcha Alternatives


Unfortunately, I'm not sure there is a way to include the deaf blind without 
making it too easy for spammers to defeat.  Deaf blind people need text, and 
computers can process text fairly well now unfortunately.
Chris Westbrook




On Jun 28, 2011, at 6:10 PM, Peter Donahue wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> That system still locks out the deaf-blind .
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gary Wunder" <GWunder at earthlink.net>
> To: "'NFB Webmaster's List'" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 2:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Captcha Alternatives
>
>
> Wow, good deal. Thanks.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Jaquiss, Robert
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:50 PM
> To: NFB Webmaster's List
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Captcha Alternatives
>
> Hello Gary:
>
>     I don't know if Dr. Lazar from Towson will be at the convention, but 
> he
> and his students have come up with a unique CAPTCHA.
> The user is asked to press the space bar when a certain sound is heard. 
> For
> example, the user is asked to press space when they hear a train. The user
> then hears a sequence of sounds such as a cat, horse, glass breaking, 
> train
> etc. the system seems to work.
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert
>
>
> Robert Jaquiss
> National Federation of the Blind
> 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place
> Baltimore, Maryland 21230
> Phone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2422
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Gary Wunder
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:39 PM
> To: 'NFB Webmaster's List'
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Captcha Alternatives
>
> Would you like to speak about it at the webmasters meeting?
>
> Gary
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Peter Donahue
> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 3:21 PM
> To: Discussion of the Graphical User Interface,GUI Talk Mailing List
> Cc: nfb-web at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Nfb-web] Captcha Alternatives
>
> Hello everyone,
>
>    This whole issue has caused me to seek out alternatives to captchas and
> the problems they cause for all Web site visitors. Being a ColdFusion
> developer I was delighted to discover a utility called "CFForm Protect."
> This plug-in does its work behind-the-scenes and requires no user
> interaction removing the need to deal with traditional captchas and the
> accessibility issues they create for the blind. To learn more about CFForm
> Protect visit:
> http://cfformprotect.riaforge.org/
>
>    To see a demonstration of how it works visit:
> http://www.nfb-writers-division.net/blog
>
>    We currently have CFForm Protect running on the blog and will role it
> out to other interactive components of this Web site in the coming months.
> I'll also be installing it on several other ColdFusion sites I'm creating 
> or
> will build in the future. Want to give it a go? Select the link to the 
> blog
> post and leave a comment. In your comment type more than six URLS, enter
> words and phrases such as free music download, or Viagra and see what
> happens. In the future CFForm Protects capabilities will be enhanced by
> linking it to Akismet and Project Honeypot.com.
>
>    One idea I suggested to control spam while not locking out blind Web
> surfers is to find a utility that will compare a would-be spammer's IP
> address with those of known spammers and preventing that spam bot from
> entering data in to the form. Project Honeypot does exactly that! The IP
> address of an entity attempting to fill out a Web form is compared with
> Honeypot's extensive database of IP Addresses of known spammers. If a 
> match
> is not found the entity is allowed to fill out the Web site form. If a 
> match
> is found the entity attempting to fill out the form is prevented from 
> doing
> so thus protecting the site's owners from spam bots. Working with CFForm
> Protect Project Honeypot gathers flagged form entries belonging to 
> would-be
> spammers and adds their IP addresses to its database. Hence we can do a
> little community service as well as protecting our Web sites from spam 
> bots
> all with out creating accessibility barriers for blind computer users!
> Project Honeypot is a free service.
>
>    Akismet is a paid service that can determine if the entity filling out 
> a
> Web form is a spammer or not. If it flaggs the entity as a spammer it
> notifies the site owner so they can take further action.
>
>    My discovery of CFFormProtect has me wondering if there are similar
> plugging, components, and utilities developed for other Web development
> environments: ASP, PHP, ASP.NET, ETC. Perhaps this is a matter for our
> Webmasters and the IBTC to explore and gather information about these
> products and services. Whenever someone seeks our help to make their Web
> site accessible we can recommend the installation of one of these programs
> instead of captchas and the problems they create for blind and deaf-blind
> computer users. Just thought I would spread the word.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124 at aol.com>
> To: <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 4:21 PM
> Subject: [gui-talk] will Webvisum be rendered useless?
>
>
> Hi Ken here.  I read in Kim Komando's email that firefox has started a new
> schedule they will be new versions of the browser every too months.  I 
> just
> got the update automaticly today and they are recommending you install it
> since no more updates will be made for version 4.  So in two months for
> example version 6 or maybe 5 point something or other.  Webvisum has been
> disabled since it isn't updated.  the firefox browser says it will enable 
> it
>
> if it has an update.  But can webvisum possible keep up with a two months
> schedule?  is our capcha solver useless thanks to this new timetable by
> firefox?
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