[Nfbc-info] [nabs-l] Follow NFB on Twitter

Sun Feb 1 05:01:53 UTC 2009

As an Internet user I should not have to go to added expense or through 
extra channels or steps to access a web site. Using these types of 
accommodations is not equal access under the law. I have done without AOL 
for political reasons aside from accessibility issues and I can do without 
social networking web sites that aren't accessible either. I very seldom 
have time to read blogs or visit accessible web sites unless there is a 
specific purpose.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] [nabs-l] Follow NFB on Twitter


> Hello Angela and listers,
>
>    Those we can use without any accessibility issues. I'm not sure it's a
> good idea for us to establish a presence on an outfit  we may end up 
> having
> to sue to make them improve the accessibility of their registration 
> process
> and other site features. I don't care if the entire galaxy gathers there. 
> We
> never had official NFB Accounts on AOL so why put them on social network
> sites with accessibility issues. And particularly  if we're promoting Web
> site accessibility. Let the SNS's wave our presence on their services in 
> our
> face in the state or federal courts.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Angela fowler" <fowlers at syix.com>
> To: "'NFB of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] [nabs-l] Follow NFB on Twitter
>
>
> I'm hard of hearing. The Twitter Captcha sounds like when a cassette gets
> jammed in one of those library of congress cassette players. If I'd 
> listened
> to it 20 times and kept guessing, I'm sure I would have gotten it
> eventually, but is that really accessible? I've seen sites with clear 
> enough
> Catpchas that I could just type as I listened.
> I agree with Michael though that in order to further our cause we
> need to get our message out into mainstreamed media, including social
> networking sites. We'll just have to keep after them.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On
> Behalf Of Michael Peterson
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:38 PM
> To: NFB of California List
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] [nabs-l] Follow NFB on Twitter
>
>    Hi Dave. the only problem is the captchea that twitter uses tries to
> duplicate a visual one in a sound format. this isn't a reasonable
> alternative for those of us who have any kind of hearing impairment 
> because
> we can't hear the letters any cleare than we can see them.
> Either way for us the site would be unaccessible without assistance.
> For a blind person with unimpaired hearing maybe the sound isn't a problem
> I've never had that luxury so I can't say but we can't discern it.
> Security concerns are what they are the problem being security is fluid.
> Give me a secure site and in time a hacker will compromise it than the 
> whole
> format has to change again.
> If a consistent standard isn't set the day might come when those of you 
> with
> lack of sight but normal hearing will be faced once again with no access.
> Mike Peterson
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] [nabs-l] Follow NFB on Twitter
>
>
> Peter:
>
> It seems to me that it is not CAPTCHA's per se
> that we are opposed to, but visual requirements
> without reasonable alternatives.  Twitter does have an audio CAPTCHA.
>
> These sites have reasonable security concerns and
> it is their right and responsibility to take
> steps to make them secure.  As long as they
> provide us with reasonable alternatives we should
> not oppose their visual approaches.
>
> Dave
>
> At 01:59 PM 1/30/2009, Peter Donahue wrote:
>>Good afternoon everyone,
>>
>>     I'm sorry folks but if this organization opposes the use of CAPTCHA 
>> as
>
>> a
>>means of site security it has no business putting its presences on these
>>sites that require blind people to use them; particularly if the audio
>>quality is horrible and the person is both blind  and deaf. I'm all for
>>establishing presences on social networks but not on those that require 
>>the
>>use of a CAPTCHA as a part of registration process. As far as I'm 
>>concerned
>>we're shooting ourselves in the foot if this continues!!
>>
>>Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Danielsen, Chris (by way of David Andrews<dandrews at visi.com>)"
>><CDanielsen at nfb.org>
>>To: <david.andrews at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:58 PM
>>Subject: [nabs-l] Follow NFB on Twitter
>>
>>
>>
>>Dear Fellow Federationists:
>>
>>
>>I am writing with exciting news! You can now
>>follow the latest news and information from the
>>National Federation of the Blind, the Voice of
>>the Nation's Blind, on Twitter.  To follow our
>>Twitter updates, go to
>><http://www.twitter.com/NFB_voice>www.twitter.com/NFB_voice.
>>You'll need to join Twitter if you don't have an account.
>>
>>
>>
>>Twitter is a social networking site that allows
>>you to keep track of your friends, family, and
>>interests online.  In addition to signing up for
>>Web updates for the National Federation of the
>>Blind, you can also opt to receive our Twitter
>>updates via text message on your mobile
>>phone.  And while you're at it, follow the 2009
>>Braille Readers are Leaders campaign as well, by
>>going to
>><http://www.twitter.com/brailleliteracy>www.twitter.com/brailleliteracy
>>
>>
>>
>>We hope lots of you will follow our new Twitter
>>feed-and don't hesitate to send us a direct
>>message if you have questions or comments about what you read.
>>
>>
>>
>>Sincerely:
>>
>>
>>
>>Chris Danielsen
>>
>>Director of Public Relations
>>
>>NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND
>>
>>
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