[Nfbc-info] [nabs-l] Follow NFB on Twitter

[Michael Peterson]

    Hi chuck.I hope your wrong on this. .  Lots of sites we may use most 
likely use capcha for various reasons.  Our access is limited on those 
glamor magazine for example has a sweepstakes that has a visual capcha I was 
entering sweepstakes to-night and a number of sites I had to just leave 
because I by virtue of a nonverbal captchea was denied access.
Lots of good prizes too.
hgtv.com has a Dream home worth two million dollars they are giving away 
next month it's in Senoma california compleetely furnished.
That site doesn't have captchea problems but it still gives me fits.
I have a couple entries there but I'm working on figuring out why I'm having 
problems now and it might be i e8 not sure just yet.
But I could make you a list of sites that by virtue of a box and the words 
enter the above code word or number limit access to their sites.  They are 
commercial sites that in some cases have actual stores.

Go to http://www.ezsweeps.com
start entering the manual sweepstakes those "you enter yourself.
the site will select more than 100 sweepstakes for you depending on what you 
select.
Than scroll up and open the sweepstakes.
After you enter a sweeps save it to your portfolio for further entry if 
desired or skip to the next one either action will take you to a new 
contest.

See how many of them which include very popular products we all may use 
limit us with visual captchea and no sound at all.
Should we just stop buying their products and using their sites?
If we did would they care?
Also who has the money to pay for all these lawsuits one case at a time 
especially with this faultering ecconamy.
at best a very limited number of suits will be filed maybe two or three a 
year and how long do we wait for full access to the internet.
But again, we can set up our own networks or go to less known ones and we 
can ask our friends / coworkers to do the same.
But will those who can see boycott the other social networks?  If they won't 
what makes you think our level of access even to them will be the same. 
Also as an entry level employee am I likely to get my company to remove it's 
presence from the big three?  If the executives won't remove their presence 
most likely employees climbing the political ladder there will participate 
with them on the social networks.

The back of the bus is still on the bus I guess but I'm glad Ms Parks didn't 
settle for that.
boycotting the big sites won't solve the problem.
And, as all ready noted,  if your correct the battle is lost!!Not will be, 
or could be it's a done deal!

 NFB all ready has a visible presence on all three sites MySpace, FaceBook, 
and Twitter.
Reversing and going away won't change the facts and would look phony.
We're all ready there!
Would going away make a difference?? Would that weaken  the argument by 
there lawyers? Did the NFB presence begin there prior to these problems? I 
am fairly certain the problems were there prior to our"Official"  presence 
in most if not all cases.
People with screen readers are using these networks to a degree every day 
some more effectively than others.
>From the window eyes list I discovered:
"> You can learn about using Facebook with screen readers in general by
> listening to the latest Tech chat found at:
>
www.serotalk.com
Mike

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Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] [nabs-l] Follow NFB on Twitter


> This is a very valid point. If we are using the site that has captia 
> features with sighted assistance then we have no cause of action and have 
> lost the battle.
> Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal
> 1237 P Street
> Fresno ca 93721
> 559-266-9237
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>
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> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] [nabs-l] Follow NFB on Twitter
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>
>> Hello Linda and listers,
>>
>> It's also possible to invite Myspace and facebook contacts to join us on
>> non-CAPTCHA Social Networks. And furthermore what's to stop these  folks
>> from arguing against us in court saying that, "Despite our use of 
>> CAPTCHAS
>> you folks still find ways to use our services so why should we change
>> things?" Has anyone contemplated that possibility?
>>
>>    I know of two social sites which I've set up accounts on that don't
>> require the use of any visual verification. They are www.linkedin.com and
>> www.instantspot.com. If we're going to create presences on these networks
>> why hasn't the NFB gotten "Linked In" or "Spotted?" This is a means to 
>> and
>> end that could backfire on us in the courts big-time.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>>
>>
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