[Nfbc-info] Scramble Pedestrian Intersections?

Hoby Wedler hobywedler at gmail.com
Thu Aug 9 22:04:37 UTC 2012


I agree with Jim.
-- Hoby Wedler


-----Original Message----- 
From: Jim Barbour
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 1:22 PM
To: NFB of California List
Cc: NFB of California List
Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Scramble Pedestrian Intersections?

I don't understand the scary part. Basically, all traffic stops, and 
pedestrians can cross in whichever direction they want. This sounds like a 
good thing. The question is, what do we suggest the city do about the 
audible traffic signals?  Should we take them out? Should they all sound 
when pedestrians can cross? Is there a different solution?

Jim

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On Aug 9, 2012, at 4:12 PM, "Michael Hingson" <info at michaelhingson.com> 
wrote:

> This does sound scary.  Crossing any which way all at once?  Hmmmm.  I
> suggest someone contact Mark Riccobono at the Jernigan Institute.  Mark
> would know about any relevant technology.
>
>
> Best,
>
>
> Michael Hingson
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On
> Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 12:53 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Scramble Pedestrian Intersections?
>
> this sounds like an accident waiting to happen. For those of us who were
> trained in mobility before audible devices this sounds like a potential
> disaster. I'm not familiar with this concept. This sounds about as bad as
> roundabouts for pedestrians.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fred's ol' XP" <regenerative at earthlink.net>
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> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:28 AM
> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Scramble Pedestrian Intersections?
>
>
>> Hi NFB-Cal'ers,
>> We just got our first "Scramble" crossing along the coast of Northern
>> San Diego County.  (That's an all-stop for vehicles, no right on red,
>> and pedestrians can cross any which way, including diagonal.
>> As an afterthought, the city traffic people asked the Beach Cities
>> Chapter for input on how to change their Audible Pedestrian Signals.
>> How do y'all do it in the big cities?
>> What do your gadgets usually say or do?
>> I used them in New Zealand and Australia, but was cruising around with
>> locals.
>> Thanks for your input!
>> Fred Chambers
>>
>>
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