[Nfbc-info] Note-Taking Devices

Chela Robles cdrobles693 at gmail.com
Fri Sep 13 14:21:56 UTC 2013 

Well what about the Focus 40 I'm sure it is three times bigger than the 
14, I was just suggesting the smaller one because I need to fit it into 
a laptop bag along with the laptop. Or what about the handi tech ones? 
The Braille Edge?

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On 9/13/2013 7:12 AM, David Andrews wrote:
> The thing I don't like about the Focus is that the travel of the keys 
> is so small, that is the distance you have to push them. It is so 
> shallow that I don't like the feel of brailling on it. I tried the 
> Brailliant a couple times and liked it better, the feel that is, but 
> haven't used it extensively.
>
> Dave
>
> At 11:16 PM 9/12/2013, you wrote:
>> What about the Brailliant braille displays or the Apex?
>>
>> -- 
>> Teachers have a sacred task:
>> It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an 
>> expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of 
>> light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will 
>> have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song.
>> And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and 
>> in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher 
>> that sheds light on what the world can be.
>> Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant 
>> second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins
>> -- 
>> Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, 
>> certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): 
>> http://www.nrffoundation.com/
>> E-mail: cdrobles693 at gmail.com
>> Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles693 at hotmail.com
>> Skype: jazzytrumpet
>> I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with 
>> us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/
>> Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free 
>> space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: 
>> http://db.tt/XpUTe0E
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>>
>> On 9/12/2013 8:56 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I use a
>>> Braille Plus 18 
>>> <http://shop.aph.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_Braille%20Plus%2018_1-07466-00P_10001_11051>
>>> for reading books, taking quick notes, recording my voice lessons, 
>>> searching the web really quick in the hall, and listening to music. 
>>> I use an IPhone for testing and calling people and doing things that 
>>> the Braille Plus 18 can't do.
>>> But I always use my computer to take notes in class and that way I 
>>> can search the internet, do tests, email and do what ever else while 
>>> I'm taking notes. Switching apps is really fast on the BP18, but not 
>>> quite as fast as it is on the computer.
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>
>>> On 9/12/2013 8:47 PM, Shannon L. Dillon wrote:
>>>> Hi Chela,
>>>> First, the Focus 14 is too small to be really useful with a laptop. 
>>>> It works
>>>> fine for an iPhone, but it's no good for reading and getting an 
>>>> idea of
>>>> formatting on the laptop screen. Don't leet your counselor BS you 
>>>> into a
>>>> Focus 14.
>>>>
>>>> As for notetakers, I have had many people tell me their iPhone is 
>>>> sufficient
>>>> to take notes with. I have tried a couple of Bluetooth keyboards, 
>>>> and the
>>>> Focus 14, and my experience has not been that great. The iPhone 
>>>> simply can't
>>>> keep up with my Brailling. So I don't know what your Braille typing 
>>>> speed
>>>> is, but I would really put an iPhone and Braille display or Bluetooth
>>>> keyboard to the test before using it as your notetaker. And trying 
>>>> using
>>>> them quickly like you're taking notes in a fast paced class. Don't 
>>>> just try
>>>> writing a letter or something you can do without concern for time.
>>>>
>>>> Plus, a notetaker you can always connect to a flash drive or memory 
>>>> stick
>>>> and get files from other people. You would have to use Dropbox or 
>>>> email to
>>>> get files from other people with your iPhone. So it limits your 
>>>> options for
>>>> sharing information with other people.
>>>>
>>>> My notetaker has been sick this last few months, and I've been 
>>>> trying my
>>>> iPhone and my laptop and in my experience, they don't replace the 
>>>> notetaker.
>>>> You can't just pop open your laptop and reboot it in the middle of 
>>>> the hall
>>>> while talking to someone if they come up with something you want to 
>>>> write
>>>> down. You can't type while standing at someone's desk. You have to 
>>>> find
>>>> somewhere to sit down, lay down the laptop and turn it on. I find the
>>>> notetaker to be a lot more portable and flexible. And as I said 
>>>> before, the
>>>> iPhone doesn't cut it because I type too fast and the words run 
>>>> together and
>>>> it starts to drop characters. I never had that with a notetaker, 
>>>> not even
>>>> back in the days of the Braille 'n Speak.
>>>>
>>>> Saying that, the laptop is great obviously for writing papers and 
>>>> reading
>>>> books that are electronic. I wouldn't want to only have a notetaker. I
>>>> would still want a laptop, too.
>>>>
>>>> Hope it helps. Feel free to contact me ifyou want.
>>>>
>>>> -Shannon
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Chela
>>>> Robles
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 7:30 PM
>>>> To: undisclosed-recipients:
>>>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Note-Taking Devices
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> I have told you while back that I'm going to take the Administrative
>>>> Assistant Program starting October 21st and through the summer of 
>>>> 2014 at
>>>> Mt. Diablo Adult Education School in my hometown, Concord, 
>>>> California and I
>>>> have made a list in conjunction with the financial aid adviser who 
>>>> will be
>>>> working with my counselor and I to make sure I succeed. A couple of 
>>>> the
>>>> items I listed I think are note-taking possibilities a windows 
>>>> professional
>>>> 7 equipped laptop and the Braille Focus 14 display.
>>>> My question to all of you since I'm not going to divulge my whole 
>>>> list which
>>>> is only ten items, which I'm sure you guys don't wish to read 
>>>> unless I'm
>>>> wrong about that then let me know.
>>>> Anyway my question is what do you guys use for taking notes in school?
>>>> Several people from the IOs listserv I'm on say they use their IPads,
>>>> IPhones, IPod Touches, MacBookPro's, while others use PC Laptops in
>>>> conjunction with braille displays that have the braille keyboard 
>>>> integrated
>>>> with the laptop while still others use just the braille display 
>>>> because it
>>>> has note-taking functionality itself, yet others still stick to the 
>>>> classic
>>>> note-takers such as from Humanware or the pac mate from Freedom 
>>>> Scientific
>>>> which mine didn't last. I just really think personally it would be 
>>>> easier to
>>>> take the laptop and the braille display along with the digital 
>>>> recorder I
>>>> have from Olympus to record lectures, but I want to make sure I 
>>>> know what
>>>> others are using but to me it sounds like a lot of people are using 
>>>> their
>>>> IDevices or Braille displays in conjunction with the IDevices or as a
>>>> stand-alone note-taker, or in conjunction or without laptops 
>>>> whether from
>>>> Apple or PC-based, now, but correct me if I'm wrong, but there are 
>>>> still
>>>> those who use the older technology such as what I mentioned before 
>>>> from
>>>> Freedom Scientific which again my Pac Mate did retire and I'd not 
>>>> get one
>>>> again.
>>>> I'd like to know before 8AM PST. Tomorrow.
>>>> I don't want to limit myself yet I want to make sure I don't break 
>>>> Rehab's
>>>> budget smiles.
>>>> I have a meeting tomorrow with a tech evaluator name Steven Clark from
>>>> Adaptive Technology Services, even though I already gave him the 
>>>> list, I'd
>>>> still like to know what others are using to take notes in classes 
>>>> nowadays.
>>>> Thanks for your kind responses.
>>>> Chela Robles
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Teachers have a sacred task:
>>>> It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an 
>>>> expectation
>>>> that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, 
>>>> and love,
>>>> and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own 
>>>> place in
>>>> it and the chance to play their own song.
>>>> And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally-and in
>>>> Chela's case--out of sight.it is the voice and touch of a Teacher 
>>>> that sheds
>>>> light on what the world can be.
>>>> Academics-and no one will ever change my mind on this-take a 
>>>> distant second
>>>> place. -Dr. Bil Hawkins
>>>> -- 
>>>> Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, 
>>>> certified by
>>>> the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF):
>>>> http://www.nrffoundation.com/
>>>> E-mail: cdrobles693 at gmail.com
>>>> Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles693 at hotmail.com
>>>> Skype: jazzytrumpet
>>>> I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with 
>>>> us,visit:
>>>> http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and 
>>>> start with
>>>> two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral 
>>>> link to
>>>> you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E
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