[Nfbc-info] Note-Taking Devices

Claude Everett ceverett at dslextreme.com
Fri Sep 13 16:42:41 UTC 2013 

These are questions that you need to ask Steve Clark. 


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Claude Everett
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From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chela
Robles
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Note-Taking Devices

Well what about the Focus 40 I'm sure it is three times bigger than the 14,
I was just suggesting the smaller one because I need to fit it into a laptop
bag along with the laptop. Or what about the handi tech ones? 
The Braille Edge?

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On 9/13/2013 7:12 AM, David Andrews wrote:
> The thing I don't like about the Focus is that the travel of the keys 
> is so small, that is the distance you have to push them. It is so 
> shallow that I don't like the feel of brailling on it. I tried the 
> Brailliant a couple times and liked it better, the feel that is, but 
> haven't used it extensively.
>
> Dave
>
> At 11:16 PM 9/12/2013, you wrote:
>> What about the Brailliant braille displays or the Apex?
>>
>> --
>> Teachers have a sacred task:
>> It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an 
>> expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of 
>> light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will 
>> have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song.
>> And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally-and 
>> in Chela's case--out of sight.it is the voice and touch of a Teacher 
>> that sheds light on what the world can be.
>> Academics-and no one will ever change my mind on this-take a distant 
>> second place. -Dr. Bil Hawkins
>> --
>> Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, 
>> certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF):
>> http://www.nrffoundation.com/
>> E-mail: cdrobles693 at gmail.com
>> Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles693 at hotmail.com
>> Skype: jazzytrumpet
>> I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with
>> us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/
>> Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free 
>> space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you:
>> http://db.tt/XpUTe0E
>> --
>>
>> On 9/12/2013 8:56 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I use a
>>> Braille Plus 18
>>> <http://shop.aph.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_Braille%20Plu
>>> s%2018_1-07466-00P_10001_11051> for reading books, taking quick 
>>> notes, recording my voice lessons, searching the web really quick in 
>>> the hall, and listening to music.
>>> I use an IPhone for testing and calling people and doing things that 
>>> the Braille Plus 18 can't do.
>>> But I always use my computer to take notes in class and that way I 
>>> can search the internet, do tests, email and do what ever else while 
>>> I'm taking notes. Switching apps is really fast on the BP18, but not 
>>> quite as fast as it is on the computer.
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>
>>> On 9/12/2013 8:47 PM, Shannon L. Dillon wrote:
>>>> Hi Chela,
>>>> First, the Focus 14 is too small to be really useful with a laptop. 
>>>> It works
>>>> fine for an iPhone, but it's no good for reading and getting an 
>>>> idea of formatting on the laptop screen. Don't leet your counselor 
>>>> BS you into a Focus 14.
>>>>
>>>> As for notetakers, I have had many people tell me their iPhone is 
>>>> sufficient to take notes with. I have tried a couple of Bluetooth 
>>>> keyboards, and the Focus 14, and my experience has not been that 
>>>> great. The iPhone simply can't keep up with my Brailling. So I 
>>>> don't know what your Braille typing speed is, but I would really 
>>>> put an iPhone and Braille display or Bluetooth keyboard to the test 
>>>> before using it as your notetaker. And trying using them quickly 
>>>> like you're taking notes in a fast paced class. Don't just try 
>>>> writing a letter or something you can do without concern for time.
>>>>
>>>> Plus, a notetaker you can always connect to a flash drive or memory 
>>>> stick and get files from other people. You would have to use 
>>>> Dropbox or email to get files from other people with your iPhone. 
>>>> So it limits your options for sharing information with other 
>>>> people.
>>>>
>>>> My notetaker has been sick this last few months, and I've been 
>>>> trying my iPhone and my laptop and in my experience, they don't 
>>>> replace the notetaker.
>>>> You can't just pop open your laptop and reboot it in the middle of 
>>>> the hall while talking to someone if they come up with something 
>>>> you want to write down. You can't type while standing at someone's 
>>>> desk. You have to find somewhere to sit down, lay down the laptop 
>>>> and turn it on. I find the notetaker to be a lot more portable and 
>>>> flexible. And as I said before, the iPhone doesn't cut it because I 
>>>> type too fast and the words run together and it starts to drop 
>>>> characters. I never had that with a notetaker, not even back in the 
>>>> days of the Braille 'n Speak.
>>>>
>>>> Saying that, the laptop is great obviously for writing papers and 
>>>> reading books that are electronic. I wouldn't want to only have a 
>>>> notetaker. I would still want a laptop, too.
>>>>
>>>> Hope it helps. Feel free to contact me ifyou want.
>>>>
>>>> -Shannon
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Chela Robles
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 7:30 PM
>>>> To: undisclosed-recipients:
>>>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Note-Taking Devices
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> I have told you while back that I'm going to take the 
>>>> Administrative Assistant Program starting October 21st and through 
>>>> the summer of
>>>> 2014 at
>>>> Mt. Diablo Adult Education School in my hometown, Concord, 
>>>> California and I have made a list in conjunction with the financial 
>>>> aid adviser who will be working with my counselor and I to make 
>>>> sure I succeed. A couple of the items I listed I think are 
>>>> note-taking possibilities a windows professional
>>>> 7 equipped laptop and the Braille Focus 14 display.
>>>> My question to all of you since I'm not going to divulge my whole 
>>>> list which is only ten items, which I'm sure you guys don't wish to 
>>>> read unless I'm wrong about that then let me know.
>>>> Anyway my question is what do you guys use for taking notes in school?
>>>> Several people from the IOs listserv I'm on say they use their 
>>>> IPads, IPhones, IPod Touches, MacBookPro's, while others use PC 
>>>> Laptops in conjunction with braille displays that have the braille 
>>>> keyboard integrated with the laptop while still others use just the 
>>>> braille display because it has note-taking functionality itself, 
>>>> yet others still stick to the classic note-takers such as from 
>>>> Humanware or the pac mate from Freedom Scientific which mine didn't 
>>>> last. I just really think personally it would be easier to take the 
>>>> laptop and the braille display along with the digital recorder I 
>>>> have from Olympus to record lectures, but I want to make sure I 
>>>> know what others are using but to me it sounds like a lot of people 
>>>> are using their IDevices or Braille displays in conjunction with 
>>>> the IDevices or as a stand-alone note-taker, or in conjunction or 
>>>> without laptops whether from Apple or PC-based, now, but correct me 
>>>> if I'm wrong, but there are still those who use the older 
>>>> technology such as what I mentioned before from Freedom Scientific 
>>>> which again my Pac Mate did retire and I'd not get one again.
>>>> I'd like to know before 8AM PST. Tomorrow.
>>>> I don't want to limit myself yet I want to make sure I don't break 
>>>> Rehab's budget smiles.
>>>> I have a meeting tomorrow with a tech evaluator name Steven Clark 
>>>> from Adaptive Technology Services, even though I already gave him 
>>>> the list, I'd still like to know what others are using to take 
>>>> notes in classes nowadays.
>>>> Thanks for your kind responses.
>>>> Chela Robles
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>> Teachers have a sacred task:
>>>> It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an 
>>>> expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full 
>>>> of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and 
>>>> will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own 
>>>> song.
>>>> And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally-and 
>>>> in Chela's case--out of sight.it is the voice and touch of a 
>>>> Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be.
>>>> Academics-and no one will ever change my mind on this-take a 
>>>> distant second place. -Dr. Bil Hawkins
>>>> --
>>>> Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, 
>>>> certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF):
>>>> http://www.nrffoundation.com/
>>>> E-mail: cdrobles693 at gmail.com
>>>> Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles693 at hotmail.com
>>>> Skype: jazzytrumpet
>>>> I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with
>>>> us,visit:
>>>> http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and 
>>>> start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is 
>>>> my referral link to
>>>> you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E
>
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